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    The Dual axis steering is genius. Some are calling for it to be banned because it gives them an unfair advantage....derrr, that's the name of the game sunshine! Fair play, great chance for Hamilton to bag another world title!

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    Innovation is ok but I won't survive another season of Mercedes lapping anyone else.

    Not sure if it's legal. I guess it's not.

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    Dual axis steering is legal this year but has already been banned next year.

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    Yep, though the ban for 2021 wasn't a direct reaction to the Mercedes system.

    The 2021 reg's are written in such a way that DAS would not be legal.

    All in all, a stroke of genius by Mercedes. How may teams are going to throw resources at developing their own DAS systems for just part of 1 season?

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    I wonder if mercedes, reading the 2021 rules, may have prompted them to think of why the 'steering wheel can only rotate, nothing else' rule was in place and what else the steering wheel could do..... Or was the rule written after the FIA were aware of mercedes planned for this year....
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    Most teams are already working for 2021. Investing even more resources for DAS for only one year? Maybe not Williams or AlphaTauri but perhaps Ferrari and Red Bull. The other teams might concentrate on 2021, regarding 2020 as a testing year for 2021. DAS requires a new crash test, so big delay. So Mercedes will have the advantage quite a long time, maybe til the middle of the season. After that all it needs are 3rd and 4th places like Jenson Button won the CS back in 2009.

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    A couple of interesting videos for everyone.

    DAS explanation:

    https://youtu.be/8vXvCGD4ybw

    https://youtu.be/2s7ScavfXwE

    And what happened in Lewis's Mercedes 2 days ago

    https://youtu.be/U_uKHNJLSQs

    It would be great to see this as a switchable technology on a high performance road car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by britlude View Post
    I wonder if mercedes, reading the 2021 rules, may have prompted them to think of why the 'steering wheel can only rotate, nothing else' rule was in place and what else the steering wheel could do..... Or was the rule written after the FIA were aware of mercedes planned for this year....
    As I understand it, Mercedes have been discussing their development of DAS with the FIA for some time, to ensure their interpretation of the existing rules was the same as that of the FIA....making the system legal under the current rules. However, these discussions were concurrent with the drafting of the 2021 reg's, and secretly aware of the loophole Mercedes had discovered, and were exploring, the FIA used this knowledge to close it in the new regs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pride View Post
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    It would be great to see this as a switchable technology on a high performance road car.
    Do you really think this has could conceivably have a tangible benedit in a road car?!

    My best guess is that it will be a minimal gain even in an F1 car, with the biggest benefit b/likely to be an enhanced ability to manage tyre temperatures / performance / wear. Even the softest, most specialised road tyres are light years away from those used in F1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyOne? View Post
    Even the softest, most specialised road tyres are light years away from those used in F1.
    That's certainly true. I don't see a benefit either on the road. Today's sportcars are already fast enough.
    In F1 it's all about understanding the tires and keep them in their optimal window. I only see a benefit in F1 and we'll see how big it is. The advantage is having a lower aero restriction and a warmed up tire already at the entry of a turn.

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