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    Is that just to show you what else you could buy for the same money LOL

    I have to admit the NSX-R looks very dated next to the F430 and I'm not a fezza fan!

    Surprised not to see the NSX-R steering wheel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lankstarr View Post
    I have to admit the NSX-R looks very dated next to the F430 and I'm not a fezza fan!

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    You are just used to seeing the NSX......Big lard arses look modern because that is the current trend..no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Surfer View Post
    You are just used to seeing the NSX......Big lard arses look modern because that is the current trend..no?

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    Couldn't agree more and the F430 looks crap against the 458.

    Its essentially a 21 year old design now and for me still holds its own.
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    I think the NSX-R holds its own too, even next to the Ferrari, but you really need to be in the mood to drive the Honda. It has no power steering, sits so low to the ground that you feel every little bump, and is extremely loud. The advantage of modern cars, the F430 included, is that technology in suspension has come a long way since the 1990's. The F430 is designed to take the bumps on UK roads, and the settings on the steering wheel allow you to drive in rain without too much drama. Have you tried to drive an NSX hard in the rain . I love the NSX-R, but its a track car, and a very expensive one at that

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    2005 3.2 litre NSX, Berlina Black

    from Gordon Murray: The NSX’s development costs must have been enormous. Everything on it is unique. The chassis, powertrain, even the air conditioning are peerless. That aluminum body was very expensive. The numerous hurdles overcome by the NSX to reach production in areas such as spot welding, corrosion, and repairability make it a monumental work in automotive history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marky View Post
    It rides much much firmer than the standard car. It is much louder. I never got to drive it but it doesn't have PAS, so I assume this is pretty uncomfortable around town. It's not for me, I prefer my car, especially as I use it a lot in town. The NSX-R is like the 911 GT3 RS, a pure race car and great for a track. Great recaros though but I didn't like the white wheels.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marky View Post
    It has no power steering, sits so low to the ground that you feel every little bump, and is extremely loud...
    Sounds like you need an NSX Type S. Suspension more suited to road (but great on track), PAS as an option (most have it), those same carbon Recaros and grey/silver wheels

    OK, they're still noisy due to the same lack of sound proofing as the NSX-R... but what a noise!

    Cheers

    Mark
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    Loving the rear arches on the porky... makes the rear look really porky

    Mark - are you keeping the black NSX now then? Is that why you haven;t replied to my pm!?

    Cheers,

    Luke
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    Haha, worried about lack of PAS!? maybe you should let your husband drive!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marky View Post
    I think the NSX-R holds its own too, even next to the Ferrari, but you really need to be in the mood to drive the Honda. It has no power steering, sits so low to the ground that you feel every little bump, and is extremely loud. The advantage of modern cars, the F430 included, is that technology in suspension has come a long way since the 1990's. The F430 is designed to take the bumps on UK roads, and the settings on the steering wheel allow you to drive in rain without too much drama. Have you tried to drive an NSX hard in the rain . I love the NSX-R, but its a track car, and a very expensive one at that

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    As some of the prospective owners could be reading this thread, I would like to share my experience and personal thoughts on the point regarding driving NSX in the rain/wet condition.

    As my personal view, as long as your alignment is adjusted properly and most importantly, your tyre is not worn out, driving NSX in the rain very hard even on the track or proving ground is much easier than driving some of the models from Ferrari especially the old ones.

    I have tested many NSX in the past for R&D projects and I felt the same as above at that time.

    Recently, I tested several NSX including NA2 Type-R on the same day on the same track/place/course including the water sprayed skid pad and snow covered down slope and I still felt the same.

    In fact, NA2 Type-R was much easier to control even in the wet condition against normal coupe on skid pad.



    When someone visits my place for alignment setup, considering the UK road, weather and depending on the owner’s driving style and original setup/spec of his/her NSX, I normally make small adjustment on the factory setup.

    On my NSX, I have replaced the tyre recently and carried out the alignment with my setup and after running in the tyre and playing with the tyre pressure for a while, I drove it hard enough (for me) and I’m happy to say that I’m comfortable to drive NSX in the rain/wet condition.

    In fact, it's my every day car so it is also used throughout the winter as well and for 16 years, I'm happy with it.


    Regards,
    Kaz

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    Non PAS, No TCS, good alignement, good tyres and you can drive the NSX in the rain no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaz-kzukNA1 View Post
    [/FONT] Recently, I tested several NSX including NA2 Type-R on the same day on the same track/place/course including the water sprayed skid pad and snow covered down slope and I still felt the same.

    In fact, NA2 Type-R was much easier to control even in the wet condition against normal coupe on skid pad.
    At a test facility with smooth slippery road surfaces as described above and when you're actively trying to break traction in a turn and therefore expecting to slide and create oversteer, a more stiffly sprung car will almost always be easier to control. A softer sprung car will roll more and any oversteer moments harder to control as the weight transfers are bigger and less predictable.

    In less artificial conditions i.e public roads, stiffly sprung cars tend to snap quickly into a slide so you have to be quick to notice, catch and correct the slide. Softer cars slide more gradually giving the driver more time to react BUT when they get too far out of shape they're harder to correct. I think the standard NSX is a classic case of the latter.

    Quote Originally Posted by AR View Post
    Non PAS, No TCS, good alignement, good tyres and you can drive the NSX in the rain no problems.
    Indeed but plenty of NSX's have met their end in ditches or against lamposts or barriers. Very possibly after the driver has thumbed the TCS button and said... "watch THIS"

    Cheers

    Mark
    The older I get, the faster I was

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