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    Quote Originally Posted by britlude View Post
    Thank-you, that answers one part of the problem. it goes in from the front.

    I have the slightly mangled remains of the white plastic bush that is on the bottom 90 degree bent part of the rod.

    If I understand you correctly, it doesn't clip into anything on the rear side of the locking mechanism slot, it is just fitted onto the rod and popped into the slot?

    Regards,

    Andy

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    The plastic bush goes into the door lock mechanism, then the rod pushes into it... no clips on the back, you wouldn't get to them anyway, the end of the rod push-clips in...

    To get the 2 apart the rod comes out leaving the bush in place....
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    Hi, Andy.

    As britlude suggested, the rod is inserted from the front towards the rear.

    Unless you have to, you really don't want removing the rear sash as you may create another issue such as wind noise, water seeping into the cabin, etc.

    Please check the threaded section of the rod.

    Sometimes, it gets loose and disconnected or the adjustment no longer suitable that it puts extra stress on the plastic bush/fastener that it will pop out or cause breakage resulting in the same issue as yours.






    The rod goes into the upper plastic fastener.

    The lower one is for the rod from the external key cyl hole.





    This is the plastic fastener used for the rear sash rod.

    Always keep spare when working on the rear sash as it's so easy for the yellow ring to fly away when inserting the rod back in place.

    I normally use combination of two long nose slightly angled pliers to create leverage when dealing with this rod.


    Kaz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaz-kzukNA1 View Post


    Hi, Andy.

    As britlude suggested, the rod is inserted from the front towards the rear.

    Unless you have to, you really don't want removing the rear sash as you may create another issue such as wind noise, water seeping into the cabin, etc.

    Please check the threaded section of the rod.

    Sometimes, it gets loose and disconnected or the adjustment no longer suitable that it puts extra stress on the plastic bush/fastener that it will pop out or cause breakage resulting in the same issue as yours.






    The rod goes into the upper plastic fastener.

    The lower one is for the rod from the external key cyl hole.





    This is the plastic fastener used for the rear sash rod.

    Always keep spare when working on the rear sash as it's so easy for the yellow ring to fly away when inserting the rod back in place.

    I normally use combination of two long nose slightly angled pliers to create leverage when dealing with this rod.


    Kaz
    Thank you both, it is the rod into the white plastic bush in the photo above that has come out with the (slightly mangled) bush still on the rod.

    I am slightly confused with the photograph of the replacement part Kaz. From the parts diagram in my initial post, I thought part 04721-SL0-000 is the white upper fitting that I need. As you say, the parts visible in the photograph are showing the yellow washer from the lower fitting. Are both upper and lower fitting included in the part number or are they in the bag below and that is the part number I need to order?

    Sorry to be a pain here but I am guessing I have to order this from my local Honda dealer and I would like to get the correct part.

    I have no experience with dealers in this country having lived the last 30 years in Asia. I am hoping that they will be more helpful than my Honda dealer in Brunei was, they would not even sell me spare parts as they hadn't supplied the car.

    Regards,

    Andy

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    Hi, Andy.
    Most likely, I misunderstood your post and we are very likely to be talking about different parts.
    Since you have the door card off, any chance you can take a photo of the ' WHITE plastic bush ' and mark it using editing tool because the rear sash rod only connects to the above 04721-SL0-000?
    Possibly you are referring to the parts located on the linkage that is operated when the rear sash rod operated.

    Kaz

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    Sorry Kaz, I can't work out how to upload the photo.

    The bush I refer to is the white one just to the left of the EO sticker, in the upper of the two slots. On your photo is has no rod inserted in it.

    It is the one with the threaded rod.

    Regards,

    Andy

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    the one beside the EO sticker and the one with the yellow bit are the same bush, just the other way around...

    if you look on the parts diagram/list you posted, note that 2 are required per door....

    here's the (usually overpriced) Lings page....

    https://www.lingshondaparts.com/part...ckref/B__5310/
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    OK, Thanks to both Jonathan and Kaz, that will explain why it isn't really lined up with either of the rods in the diagram, it fits both.

    I shall be on to Honda in the morning to attempt to purchase the required part.

    Regards,

    Andy

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    On purposely used that photo in my previous post as I didn't want showing how a certain parts installed for the security system at the driver side door.
    The fastener in the lower slot is not complete and missing the silver washer.

    Also, on the later model or different country spec, the area around the lower slot will look completely different so please only refer the photo for the upper slot where the rear sash rod is connected.









    Took extra photo so hope these will help.

    You may struggle placing the 04721- in the upper slot.
    It's quite obvious but just sandwich the brass coloured metal slot on the door lock assy where the green arrows indicate.

    Kaz

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