less said about McLaren and honda at testing the better then, huh????
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less said about McLaren and honda at testing the better then, huh????
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Were frustrated as spectators, how must the team feel ... I was once told that for Honda this was a 5 yr project to be at the top, looks like that forecast could be right ... Ive not seen todays stats, hopefully better than last week and today ... lets hope the Melbourne spec unit is built on a Monday, weve had enough of Friday engines now ...
Meanwhile Mercedes continues its testing on one engine ...
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Honda have a 10 year deal with McLaren.... this is year 3....
unfortunately i heard a whisper about 3-4 weeks ago that McL engineers weren't happy with the new engine for 2017, but that is the nature of a 90% new design, if it worked no one would say anything, down on power and everyone moans!
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So another 2 yrs to get this one right, then 5 yrs of trophies
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'Too many manufacturers today are obsessed with lap times and power outputs at the expense of emotion and fun' Colin Goodwin
S2 is signed by the NSX Project Leader Shigeru Uehara
They probably would moan, but I suspect they'd take a bit 'down on power's right now. The McLaren is averaging 24 laps an engine (and that's just the ones Honda/McLaren admit to swapping out).Originally Posted by britlude
The thing that really struck me watching the cars at races last year (you get no idea how they sound on TV) is how awful the Honda engine sounds compared to the rest, especially off throttle. I think it was Martin Brundle who likened it to a skeleton in a biscuit tin! Still, if the thing ran for more than 20-odd laps and made good power, I'm sure they wouldn't give two hoots about the noise!
As for the rest of them, I suspect Mercedes are sandbagging, but it would make things interesting if Ferarri and Red Bull are as close to them as testing suggests. I'd also like to think that the Williams pace is real.
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Gordon Murray knows.
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Hard to believe that their new engine held on the engine test bed for 4-5 races and now it fails after +-20 laps. You can hear its sound/noise/rattle even on the videos...Interesting to see that they drive some corners very slowly (oil starvation?).
Renault has some problems too...
Toys out of Fred's pram very early this season:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/39212377
2001 3.2 Circuit Blue Coupe with pop-ups!
"If you want to argue that The Best Car in the World is a supercar, go ahead. But there is only one that makes the grade. Only one that's built properly.
Gordon Murray knows.
Rowan Atkinson knows.
It's the Honda NSX."
(J. Clarkson)
And now it goes from bad to worse for McLaren/Honda, read this:
McLaren CRISIS Uncovered: Team could face choice between Fernando Alonso and Honda - Express
https://apple.news/AYr9kiyycO3-1L8fZO1iTzw
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..............and guess what, it was a RED one but of course.
I really, really hope that I am wrong, but McLaren look like a team in terminal decline. Whilst they have a factory engine deal, the performance of the car/team since they gave up the customer Mercedes engine has been shocking. As a consequence they struggle to get sponsorship, there is continual internal termoil and now it seems Fred's patience is wearing thin.
2001 3.2 Circuit Blue Coupe with pop-ups!
"If you want to argue that The Best Car in the World is a supercar, go ahead. But there is only one that makes the grade. Only one that's built properly.
Gordon Murray knows.
Rowan Atkinson knows.
It's the Honda NSX."
(J. Clarkson)
Eric Boullier was asked yesterday how he felt McLaren would be doing if they were running the Mercedes engine.
"We'd be winning races"
McLaren-Honda heading for divorce?
2001 3.2 Circuit Blue Coupe with pop-ups!
"If you want to argue that The Best Car in the World is a supercar, go ahead. But there is only one that makes the grade. Only one that's built properly.
Gordon Murray knows.
Rowan Atkinson knows.
It's the Honda NSX."
(J. Clarkson)
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