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Powerall Power Bank PBJS12000R – jump starting NSX 01

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Now-a-days, you can get all sorts of lithium ion battery products.





I use Anker 2nd Gen Astro 6400mAh battery for charging the mobile phone while on the go.
Very small and light yet you can charge your mobile phone for about 3 times.


There are lots of similar products for jump starting the car and I was hoping to find something from Anker or from one of the Japanese battery manufactures but so far, nothing available at reasonable cost. It's a battery and with current technology, it won't last forever at this stage so not much point in investing too much for something to be thrown away.

After some research, although there were mixed feedback, decided to give it a try on the product from a US manufacture called Powerall.




There are lots of un-authorised dealers and even counterfeit products on the market so based on the Powerall website (www.thepowerall.com), purchased it through US amazon.com with ASIN No. B00D42AFS8.
It comes in frustration-free packaging.


You can get almost exactly the same product from Powerall with carrying case included through other vendors on amazon or webshops but for my application, I'm 100% sure that I won't be carrying all these adaptor connectors and thus, no need for the carrying case.
Also, being as a battery products, there is always a chance of initial defects so wanted to stay with the item sold and delivered by amazon.



Battery technology advances every day so what I learnt in the past are outdated but my understanding on the lithium ion battery is as follows.
Same goes for your mobile phone battery.



  • Fairly efficient considering the volume/electric-current ratio. It can output huge amount of current even from small body size.
  • It doesn't like to be at 100% fully charged or completely drained down to 0% and staying in these two states for prolonged time especially under high temperature. Therefore, if you are charging your mobile phone, never leave it on charge over night while you are sleeping. You will shorten the life of battery unless your system has automatic shut down circuit.
  • It has much shorter life than the ordinary lead acid car battery. With lithium ion, after about 500 discharge/charge cycle, the actual full battery capacity would be about 50 – 60% of the brand new state. If you charge your mobile phone every day, after about 1 - 1.5years, you will notice that your mobile phone battery won't last long compared to when it was new.





Items inside the box. I won't be using all these adaptor connectors in the clear bag. One thing to be noted. The AC adaptor is 2pin style as it's from US and not in the UK 3pin one. Not a problem as you won't be charging this device regularly. In fact, once charged, you only need to do it again in about 3 months time.




Strong 1W LED light with three different lighting mode. Continuous, flashing and SOS modes.

2 x USB ports with max output upto 2.1A so you can charge your mobile phone, pad, etc. Not sure it has max constant current control circuit for different devices like Anker's IQ port.

5 x indicator lights showing the charge status. As expected, it was delivered in partially charged status. It was showing 4 lights on arrival but took this photo after discharging it for a while.




Jump battery port hidden under the protection cover. It was bit difficult to lift this cover and probably not easy for someone with long nail.
Also, later, I found that disconnecting the jump cable blue connector from this port required fair amount of force so not easy for some of the owners.




As a standard procedure for this kind of battery products, wanted to fully discharge it first before fully charging it so decided to connect two mobile phones and then other devices.
In fact, I already repeated this full discharge/charge cycle 3 times immediately after the delivery and the device holds the chage over long period so the one I received seemed to be fine..
If the product is faulty, most of the time, it will show up during this multiple discharge/charge process.



After it went down to about 10% capacity, one blue indicator light started flashing and low voltage protection circuit kicked in so time to recharge the device.
At this low voltage status, it measured 8.34V at the jump start terminal.
When it was fully charged, it measured 12.33V at the same terminal.
The AC adaptor (charger) spec is 12.6V at 1.5A rate on the label but actual measured figure was 12.9V.

As I didn't want to keep it at fully charged status, drained it down to 11.9V immediately.







The jump start cable.
4 x schottky diode in parallel. Each rated at 2 x 20A so 160A rated. Hope it's fine for short period of 200-400CCA for jump starting the car.

Updated 08-02-2015 at 01:20 PM by Kaz-kzukNA1 (added extra voltage info)

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Comments

  1. Pride's Avatar
    Hi Kaz, surely you don't mean to say that this tiny battery can jump start your car when flat????

    If so that's amazing!!!!

    How much did it cost please????
  2. Kaz-kzukNA1's Avatar
    Although it was a while ago, amazon US still lists it at the same price at US$94.95.
    Delivery charge through amazon global: US$11.87.
    Pre-paid UK Customs fee: US$21.36.
    Total: US$128.18 delivered [Update: amazon refunded me US$3.28 for the overpaid deposit for UK Customes fee so the total was US$124.90.]


    I just checked my old credit card statement and my credit card company took £2.56 for USD/GBP commission charge
    so in total, it came out at £88.03 delivered. [Update: with the refund of US$3.28 for the UK Customs fee, the total was just about £86.]

    Being as a battery product (even meeting the local regulations) and depending on the vendor status, some of them won't deliver outside of US.
    You will know this before placing the order if you are logged into the amazon site using your account with delivery address registered.


    As mentioned above, there are other vendors on amazon US as well as on other websites that sell the same product at different price.

    I tried to find it in UK but at that time, the one sold and delivered from amazon UK were out of stock with no information on the next expected delivery so stopped the search there.
    Other vendors on amazon UK or on ebay are selling it at about £140+ with unknown status about the authorised dealer so not interested.


    If ordering from amazon US, please make sure to check ASIN no. B00D42AFS8.
    Otherwise, you won't be covered by the manufacturer’s warranty.

    Please note that the one sold and delivered from amazon US using the above ASIN no. does NOT include the storage case and the spec of the jump cable is different from the 'Deluxe' model.
    Exactly the same battery spec but comes with storage case and seems to be better jump cable spec.



    There are so many similar products from different companies. Some looked genuine, others looked just a copy.....
    I did consider the one from Antigravity against Powerall.


    The only thing to mention is that when you buy something sold and delivered from amazon US, they are very likely to use a company called 'i-parcel' for the delivery method.
    It's UPS owned company but lots of mixed feedback on the web.
    The tracking information between amazon US and i-parcel didn't match once the package landed in UK so no idea on when it will be delivered.

    At the end, it was delivered 8 days after placing the order so not bad at all.


    Kaz
    Updated 08-02-2015 at 11:08 PM by Kaz-kzukNA1 (added delivery and refund info)