hi all yes rob the hobbit in the honda shirt is there test driver anthony davidson, and I might put afew type R bits on it. simon yes the car has to go? back to japan for reasonds i can't go in to at the moment all i can say is honda uk have replaced my old one with the new one. jaytip the two colours look the same on film to see them off camera they look very different, damian thanks for nice comments ,nigel