Than pretty much sums it up lol

I also never tried the damperless joint with OEM pedal, installed the 2 parts at the same time.

Quote Originally Posted by Kaz-kzukNA1 View Post
Hi, Mark.

It’s the combination of the damper less joint and the Type-R pedal.

Please refer to the next question onwards for the effect of pedal.

While the damper will eliminate the vibration/noise through the clutch pedal from Gbox, it changes the actual bite point depending on how you depressed the pedal.

Also, the initial movement of the pedal travel is absorbed by the damper that it will require longer pedal stroke to disengage the clutch.



If the initial pedal height and stroke is the same between standard (dampened joint + normal pedal) and Type-R (damper less joint + Type-R pedal) setup, then you are correct.

However, with Type-R setup, there is no damper in the hydraulic system and thus, the clutch is disengaged with shorter pedal stroke.

Addition to this and for better access, Type-R pedal is using lower initial pedal height.
So, you can control the clutch with shorter pedal stroke and less movement of your foot from the foot-rest position comapred to the standard setup.
This will allow you the quicker clutch pedal action.



I never installed just the damper less joint without the Type-R clutch pedal but if you look at the above points, you will know that there is no point in doing so. Similar to your comment above, most of the pedal stroke is wasted if you stayed with the standard pedal.

By the way, as you can imagine, it is not good to use just the Type-R pedal with standard dampened joint. Depending on the way you depress the pedal, there is a small chance that you may not fully disengage the clutch before shifting.


The hydraulic system components such as clutch master/slave/hose/pipe and most of the release folk components are the same between single and twin type clutch so you can use this setup on both clutch type.

Kaz