Brake upgrade advice

[reg]

After some thought I am going to be improving the brakes which IMO are not only not upto the performance of the car they are not up to the performance of a Civic. They judder, the peddle has too much travel and the bite is inconsistant.....and breathe.

So. I dont want to go the expense of Type R disks/pads (I am betting they are expensive and may not fit with the 16/17 wheels?) so can I ask here what a good road set-up is?

Proposed Mods.

1. Fit stainless lines
2. Bleed the system (and ABS?)
3. Judder, skim the disks on the short term
4. Find new pads, do Ferodo make the 2500 for the NSX?
5. Find new disks, are stock always poor?
6. Maybe do the deflector mod after #1,2,3,4

I am less than impressed with Honda on this subject. My ITR would destroy my current NSX setup :-?

[AR]

Get the lines. Make sure you have new quality brake fluid. Ferodo pads are great but your wheels will look dirty all the time, specially if you have sloted discs. Get some deflectors and you are good to go.

Just my experience.

Cheers,

AR

[reg]

Get the lines. Make sure you have new quality brake fluid. Ferodo pads are great but your wheels will look dirty all the time, specially if you have sloted discs. Get some deflectors and you are good to go.

Just my experience.

Cheers,

AR

Thanks for the reply.

Seriously I am so unhappy with brakes, they are pretty poor. I used EBC on the teg and used them hard (very). I know what the general opinion of EBC is in the market place but IME they have been ok. I work with MotoGP spec Brembo's and they are nice and all that but these are going to be on a road car not stripped every 30 mins! Do you know of anyone running EBC blanks and redstuff?

I don't know if the discs are within tolerance to skim yet, I guess that will determine plan a. I am not a badge snob and will try whatever

[sportyking]

If no air in the system it sounds like your discs and flexible hoses are shot.
The NSX brakes when working properly are perfectly acceptable for "normal" road use so you could just renew the above parts. A full bleed and new fluid would be included.

If you want to go further it is a well documented list of choices depending on the size of your wallet. I do think for aftermarket pads you may be better off looking into Japanese specialist items as they have put much more time and effort into the NSX than the Europeans and Yanks put together. When you look deep the choice is mind boggling.

[reg]

depending on the size of your wallet.

Agreed.

But I have found in the past that most discs respond pretty well to abrasive pads. These will eat the discs pretty quickly so instead of spending £££ on ultra-carbon blah, blah discs some basic aftermarket discs gripped by some aggresive pads work well. Say the cheap(er) discs last 10K of abuse well thats 2 yrs or so of my mileage.

I just need to find someone who has run EBC blanks with redstuff pads or some pagid's (if there are any for the std caliper) or Ferodo's (whish I know make all sorts of dust but they give great performance.

At thte risk of being labelled as the NSX chav on the forum I am thinking of Blue Dot OEM rears and EBC fronts with the aforementioned kevlar or stainless lines and red/yellow/pagid/hawk/Ferodo pads

[AR]

I think Darren runs Black Diamond discs, and so does Ivor. I have Ferodo pads on mine and they are fine, but as I said they do dust.

Cheers,

AR

[NSXGB]

Thanks for the reply.

Seriously I am so unhappy with brakes, they are pretty poor. I used EBC on the teg and used them hard (very). I know what the general opinion of EBC is in the market place but IME they have been ok. I work with MotoGP spec Brembo's and they are nice and all that but these are going to be on a road car not stripped every 30 mins! Do you know of anyone running EBC blanks and redstuff?

I don't know if the discs are within tolerance to skim yet, I guess that will determine plan a. I am not a badge snob and will try whatever

EBC Direct supply the NSX disks. Fronts are about £100 / pair. They are stamped 'BRADI' which, from what I understand, is the same castings that Brembo use.

[simonprelude]

I have said this before on NSX Prime and on here, the 2 piece slotted rotors from Racing Brake are an excellent component. They are also significantly lighter than stock due to the bell being Aluminium and have the advantage that when it comes to replacement you can just change the rotor.

They are currently on offer directly from Racing Brake

http://www.racingbrake.com/NSX_s/4425.htm

I am using these with Goodridge stainless hoses, Motul fluid and Type R pads.

If you did want to splash the cash then the whole Type R set up would fit as the brakes are the same size from 1997 onwards. However I think the calipers are only aesthetically different so would not bother changing unless yours are causing problems.

[Senninha]

Hi Reg,

I'm currently refreshing the brakes on my NSX. My set up will include the NSX-R discs (sourced from Dirk in Germany), braided hoses, Project MU pads and deflectors (all sourced from Dali). For road use it might be argued that the deflectors do not need changing, but seeing as the car is stripped down, I decided to do anyway ....... in lovely CF of course

I settled on this after much discussion with members here, Mark at Dali, plus my own personal aim of keeping major mods as OEM as possible.

The pad choice I believe to have been well tested by Sportyking and others and is a Japanese OEM replacement.

I chose Dali as the $$ exchange is very good at present, service was great and all items arrived within 6 days of placing the order. If you go this way, correspond by email in the first instance so Mark knows the order is coming, order on line and you should get email confirmation and tracking details PDQ.

HTH

Regards, Paul

PS - I considered Simons disc set-up, they look good and I know he's v.pleased, but the R discs were at a very good price

[simonprelude]

Indeed, I was not willing to pay £1600 for the type R discs, as that was the cheapest price I could get them for until Dirk offered them for much cheapness.

If it had been a couple of months later then I too would have had the type R discs also.

PS - I considered Simons disc set-up, they look good and I know he's v.pleased, but the R discs were at a very good price