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    So the first day of the F1 winter testing has started

    1) Ricciardo (Red Bull) 1:20.179 Medium
    2) Bottas (Mercedes) 1:20.349 Medium
    3) Raikkonen (Ferrari) 1:20.506 Soft
    4) Hulkenberg (Renault) 1:20.547 Medium
    5) Hartley (Toro Rosso) 1:22.371 Soft
    6) Stroll (Williams) 1:22.452 Soft
    7) Grosjean (Haas) 1:23.092 Medium
    8) Alonso (McLaren) 1:24.202 Super soft
    9) Ericsson (Sauber) 1:24.897 Medium
    10) Mazepin (Force India) 1:25.628 Medium

    So pleased the Toro Rosso has done a faster lap than the McLaren, plus it did 72 laps this morning, unlike the McLaren!
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    Yep, I was just catching up on this.

    Awful start for McLaren, and an encouraging one for Toro Rosso and Honda.

    The Honda engine still sounds like a skeleton in a biscuit tin on deceleration - how do they do that?!
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    The table of completed laps is much more impressive as a lost testday sets you back by far (esp if you simply loose your wheel):

    Renault 73
    Toro Rosso 72
    Ferrari 60
    Red Bull 60
    Mercedes 58
    Williams 46
    Sauber 41
    Haas 32
    Force India 22
    McLaren 10

    During the first day the lap times are not very relevant but if you want to point out one thing: Red Bull is 4 seconds faster than McLaren with the same engine. It will be interesting to see how McLaren adopts the Renault engine and if they even can near to Red Bull with their years of experience with the Renault engine.

    It looks like Toro Rosso and Honda did a very good job over the winter. The new baby seems to be alive and kicking (fingers crossed).

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    I don't know whether you guys have seen this new compelling insight series about how and why Maclaren broke up with Honda but if you can get watch it you would really enjoy it.

    Could the same scenario be happening with Renault now???🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pride View Post
    I don't know whether you guys have seen this new compelling insight series about how and why Maclaren broke up with Honda but if you can get watch it you would really enjoy it.

    Could the same scenario be happening with Renault now???��

    https://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2018/...onda-break-up/
    MacLaren:
    http://www.maclaren.uk/

    McLaren:
    https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/

    Why on earth, after just ~4 hours of testing (disrupted for McLaren beacuse they apparently failed to screw one of the wheels onto Fred's car properly) would you suggest that McLaren and Renault may be parting?!
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    90 laps for Toro Rosso now. That's a good start! I think that is much, much more than in the previous three years all together on day one. Very promissing that the car is working as it should regardless how fast it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyOne? View Post
    MacLaren:
    http://www.maclaren.uk/

    McLaren:
    https://www.mclaren.com/formula1/

    Why on earth, after just ~4 hours of testing (disrupted for McLaren beacuse they apparently failed to screw one of the wheels onto Fred's car properly) would you suggest that McLaren and Renault may be parting?!
    Calm Dow, calm down, I was only being facetious, you shouldn't take it so seriously.
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    Back in the real world, early days but encouraging to see top three cars today powered by three different engines and only ~0.3 seconds appart.
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    Wheel nuts aside, of more concern is that Red Bull & Renault can both be 4 seconds faster than Alonso AND be on Medium compound tyres whilst he was on the super soft that should be faster ... please tell us they were testing without chasing time otherwise its going to be dissapointing with some very unhappy investors, not to mention Maclaren fans .....
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    Last year, a rookie Canadian crashed the Williams on day one, what a nightmare. During testing we don't know the test program, fuel load or safety margins. That's why it's hard to compare them. We might get an idea at the end of the test days...

    The Top3 teams seem to be set for 2018 but how far are they apart? It's rumored that Honda brought a de-tuned engine to Barcelona just to make sure all tests (except speed) can be accomplished.

    Investors: teams still looking for new investors have an incentive to cheat a little bit with a light car and better times while the others don't have to. How many pounds have to be shaved off the McLaren to gain 4 seconds???

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