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    less said about McLaren and honda at testing the better then, huh????
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    Were frustrated as spectators, how must the team feel ... I was once told that for Honda this was a 5 yr project to be at the top, looks like that forecast could be right ... Ive not seen todays stats, hopefully better than last week and today ... lets hope the Melbourne spec unit is built on a Monday, weve had enough of Friday engines now ...

    Meanwhile Mercedes continues its testing on one engine ...
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    Honda have a 10 year deal with McLaren.... this is year 3....


    unfortunately i heard a whisper about 3-4 weeks ago that McL engineers weren't happy with the new engine for 2017, but that is the nature of a 90% new design, if it worked no one would say anything, down on power and everyone moans!
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    So another 2 yrs to get this one right, then 5 yrs of trophies
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    Quote Originally Posted by britlude View Post
    ....down on power and everyone moans!
    They probably would moan, but I suspect they'd take a bit 'down on power's right now. The McLaren is averaging 24 laps an engine (and that's just the ones Honda/McLaren admit to swapping out).

    The thing that really struck me watching the cars at races last year (you get no idea how they sound on TV) is how awful the Honda engine sounds compared to the rest, especially off throttle. I think it was Martin Brundle who likened it to a skeleton in a biscuit tin! Still, if the thing ran for more than 20-odd laps and made good power, I'm sure they wouldn't give two hoots about the noise!

    As for the rest of them, I suspect Mercedes are sandbagging, but it would make things interesting if Ferarri and Red Bull are as close to them as testing suggests. I'd also like to think that the Williams pace is real.
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    Hard to believe that their new engine held on the engine test bed for 4-5 races and now it fails after +-20 laps. You can hear its sound/noise/rattle even on the videos...Interesting to see that they drive some corners very slowly (oil starvation?).
    Renault has some problems too...

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    Toys out of Fred's pram very early this season:
    http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/39212377
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    Now in the third year, if I was McLaren I'd let the engine run at 100% in each race and let it spectacularly blow up if it doesn't hold. No "we must save fuel", No "we must cut power", MUCH MORE fun for the spectators! McLaren knows how it works, looking back at the time with Peugeot engines.

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    It's not getting any better for Honda / McLaren - another engine has just let go.....
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    Honda and McLaren might not be doing to well at F1 but in the 2017 IndyCar Series, a Honda powered car came 1st in the first race of the year, with Honda aslo powering the 3rd, 4th and 5th placed car. In fact they powered 7 of the top 10 cars. Not a bad result for a Turbo charged V6, if only they could get the one in the back of the McLaren to be as good!

    http://www.indycar.com/News/2017/03/03-12-StPete-race
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