http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-NSX-...kAAOSwr7ZW3hdMOriginally Posted by AR
Well the most recent feedback for the current seller might suggest why the above comments?? Although this wouldn't really be fair to the guy who made all attempts to be honest and open about the repair path he took...
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If the seller gave the full story/photos it might help allay any worries.
I bought a Cat D car (not an NSX) about 10 years ago. But I only did that because the seller showed plenty of photos of the damage. Two dented doors and some trim had been replaced following a low-speed accident. That's entirely reasonable and I was happy to go ahead; it really was cosmetic. When I sold it on, I also provided the same before/after repair photos.
Edited to add: Mods, can you correct the number plate in the thread title to 'T506CSB'?
I believe i posted the photos before it wasa taken away by the recovery peple.
It was quote at an initial estimate of over £25K to repair it!
I don't class both front chassis legs and the drivers door having difficulty closing due to side of the car bowing cosmetic!
I own, have done for the past 2.5 years, and am selling the car in question.
AR, despite your vociferous outpouring on here, It would seem that you either don't know what you are talking about, or have some other 'sour grapes' position about the (MY) car. Do you still own an NSX?
The car has been thoroughly inspected, by a well regarded restoration shop, for all evidence of damage, or indeed any substandard repairs, and jigged to test alignment of all components.
Their verdict was, chassis is perfect. Repairs were isolated to replacement of front wings, bonnet, bumper and headlights, along with supporting components. There was ZERO evidence found of any deformation of any aspect of the vehicle.
Panel gaps are uniform throughout the car, and every aspect of the vehicle works perfectly.
The car is having an autolign inspection in the coming week, which will be noted in the register for independent (public) confirmation of the above.
As I assume you (AR) have not been party to, nor inspected either the subsequent repair or the follow on thorough recommissioning? Well, I say assume, but in truth I KNOW for certain, that you have not had the chance to look at the car, as I've spoken to the previous owner about you and your comments, and neither he, nor I, understand your basis for continuous 'bashing' of the car in question.
FACTS.
Your opinion of the damage, is totally different to the PROFESSIONALS who assessed the damage to the car. Hence, it was classified as a CATEGORY D!
CAT D - is SUPERFICIAL damage, deemed totally safe to repair and return to road use, without even needing ANY inspection, beyond a regular MOT.
This, IS FACT.
I own, another vehicle that received the exact same Category D status, that I purchased and repaired because it had key scratches! Category D means nothing of significance, except it was damaged, and the insurers chose to pay out the value of the vehicle rather than repair it. This doesn't mean the damage was serious, just that they decided it was easier and cheaper to do so, and to recover their costs through the sale of the vehicle.
If there was ANY question as to the structural integrity of the vehicle, it would have been a category C, and if the damage was truly 'dangerous' or significant, it may have been Category A or B. But it was NOT. It was category D. End.
It is very common for rare, imported, or exotic vehicles to end up as Category D, even with very minor damage, as insurance companies, do not wish to deal with prolonged hunt for parts, all the while paying out costs for hire cars etc for the IDIOT responsible.
Last edited by T99nsx; 19-03-2016 at 12:51 AM.
I would also say, that I have 270+ positive feedback on eBay, and really cannot do anything about the fact that in 2011 I sold a 11 year old Mercedes, with 107k miles that suffered an engine failure a month later, because it had run out of oil, which was apparently due to a poor previous repair, where a sump gasket may not have been correctly fitted. I did not do the repair, and despite the feedback, I did in fact PAY for the engine of that car to be rebuilt! NET outcome, was that the repairs cost me MORE than I sold the car for! Unfortunately the individual did not change, nor did he have the decency to update the negative feedback he left on eBay.
I still have this negative feedback, but neither try to hide it on my sale of the NSX, nor do I in any way try to hide that the NSX has been repaired.
I am not a car dealer. I have sold 5 (of my personal) cars on eBay since 2006. I own around 20 cars, ranging from classic Porsches and Mercedes, to 30s - 70s hotrods and Americans - and an NSX.
I have owned 3 NSXs including my current Imola orange 3.2.
I've never crashed, ANY of them.
Last edited by T99nsx; 19-03-2016 at 12:24 AM.
Anyone who has seen my car, will tell you, it is in beautiful condition, looks great, runs and drives great.
It has 50k miles, and has had, with proof, 2 cam belt changes, the last being less than 4K miles ago.
It is one of the VERY rare, 3.2 6 speed cars, with popup lights.
They are appreciating rapidly.
It of course will never be worth as much as a car which has never had recorded damage. BUT - how many of these Japanese import cars have been repaired??? Who knows. How many NSXs running around, have had accident damage which was repaired, without being recorded? Again, who knows!
Many of you, sadly - or happily remain in ignorant bliss, thanks to good quality repairs.
Mine is honest, and will stand up to any scrutiny. I will not twist anyone's arm to buy it, and would point out, that It's also, 20k less, than a near identical car, sold by silverstone auctions in late Feb this year.
So what if it had a repair, it's a bargain! Totally usable, awesome, brilliant car, which will only continue to increase in value.
I really do not give a hoot if it doesn't sell, it will continue to appreciate in value tucked away in my cosy garage. I will continue to enjoy driving it, when it comes out on sunny days. Or, someone else will buy it, and whoever the lucky individual is that buys it, will likely read your uninformed bile, and potentially develop a similar sense of contempt* and disdain* that I feel towards you AR.
I'm FURIOUS about your uninformed and malicious comments, and the high potential material impact you are having on the value of my property.
You can be sure, now that I know about the contents of this forum, that I will vigorously pursue having all such damaging comments removed from public record.
*ps. They are not the 'exact' words I would choose were this not a public forum.
Last edited by T99nsx; 19-03-2016 at 12:33 AM.
So I guess the guy who owned it and CAT D before me was an IDIOT, I am an IDIOT as I CAT D it for the second time and following your Logic so was Senna and every other person who had a crash!
Superficial Damage - I am still unsure why I did not call a Chips Away or Paintless dent specialist...It must be because I am such an IDIOT!
Gotta love the eBay feedback comment on your profile:
"A complete crook!!! Sells clapped out cars with bodged engine repairs .. con man"
Quoting your words from the advert:
"the damage required to cause a CAT D claim was very minor."
Are you serious???
It might look dramatic.
But, the windscreen is intact - plastic bumper, bonnet, wings. As I stated.
That's what cat D means.
Come inspect the car.
Ps - were you on a race track? Or just driving like a c**k?
I'd love to know your qualifications to inspect or comment on the damage a car has sustained?
any?
Or, are you just a insecure small man, who spends day after day on a forum, spouting about things you know nothing about?
Theres the car. It's near as dammit perfect.
http://www.classicandsportscar.com/c...x=1&link=false
My number is on the ad on eBay. Give me a call, and come take a look, but I wouldn't let you drive it. For obvious reasons
It looks like what it was, a non cosmetic crash.
The issue here is not my driving but your lack of factual information on the advert.
If you feel that confident then you will have no issues posting the above picture on your ad.
Did you or did you not tell people it was minor and cosmetic. The picture and estimate of cat D prove you wrong.
Your feedback on eBay, current posts here and tactically written ad on eBay say a lot about your character.
Accept it, the damage was not just cosmetic.
Either you did not know the extent of it or you knew.
Both are bad, as for the one shows lack of due diligence, as only a fool will buy such a car without researching its history and the other well...
A picture is worth a thousand words!!!
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