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Thread: Rotors and pads that will hold up for a trackday too

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    So I am about to replace my rotors and pads. I want something that ideally will work on the streets and hold up for a full trackday also. Will EBC rotors do the job? For pads, how about Porterfield R4-S/Ferrodo D2500/Hawk HP+/EBC Yellowstuff/Mintex 1144? I posted about this on Facebook also but the discussion got a bit "emotional" and muddy - Thanks, Niels (PS: I know my way around a track and will explore the limits of the car the best I can. My car is otherwise stock with normal premium street tires)

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    Quote Originally Posted by harkes View Post
    So I am about to replace my rotors and pads. I want something that ideally will work on the streets and hold up for a full trackday also. Will EBC rotors do the job? For pads, how about Porterfield R4-S/Ferrodo D2500/Hawk HP+/EBC Yellowstuff/Mintex 1144? I posted about this on Facebook also but the discussion got a bit "emotional" and muddy - Thanks, Niels (PS: I know my way around a track and will explore the limits of the car the best I can. My car is otherwise stock with normal premium street tires)
    Hi Niels

    I use Detlef's (pro car) AP brake upgrade on my car (rotas+pads).......i swapped out "hi spec" four pots after the car wrapping disc on more than one track day and have never looked back.
    Not cheap to do but.....do it right do it once.....!
    rtb

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    EBC have a varied reception on here. I have tracked my NSX a couple of times and will NEVER use EBC again in relation to their pads.

    since then i have upgraded to grooved slotted rotors by Stoptech and use Carbon Lorraine RC+5 pads and carbotech xp8's on rear. great stopping power but the dust on xp8's are pretty bad. however in terms of stopping performance, the car is in a different league compared to once was.

    check with dixel brakes on here, they have a range of stuff that are available for the NSX.
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    Dixcel appears to one of the best bets with stock calipers, but they're not cheap.

    I've got EBC blanks and red-stuff, and to be honest they're good for fast-road but you need to look after them on-track, certainly on faster tracks. When I buy again it'll probably be with a bigger budget and buy either Dixcel pads/discs, or Stoptech rotors with the least-dusty GOOD pads I can find.

    Of your list I've experience on a DC2 (OK, different animal but peak speeds not that different) with
    - DS2500 - great fast-road / semi-trackday - feel/bite/progression first rate, and at least as good as RedStuff on-track, but very dusty
    - Mintex 1144 - even dustier than DS2500, probably more of a fast-road pad too. Second set I had delaminated from the backing so I've avoided since, but I may just have had a bad set.
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    EBC discs with red stuff pads ... Now running Bilsteins on lower perch but when I tracked the car it was on stock set up and good road tyres not super sticky tyres. In my opinion, the tyres will limit you more than the brakes, especially as you say you "know your way round a track". There's rarely a prize giving on track days so work on technique, smoothness and worry less about the late braking competition and enjoy a consistency many often fail to achieve on track days .. That's my 2 cents worth ... Look after you and the NSX
    Senninha

    'Too many manufacturers today are obsessed with lap times and power outputs at the expense of emotion and fun' Colin Goodwin

    S2 is signed by the NSX Project Leader Shigeru Uehara

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    The DIXCEL ES type are very affordable and will withstand light, track work. A set of front and rear pads is about £110

    the Z type will take pretty much all you can throw at them, work from cold and behave in a civilized manner on the road with low noise and reasonably low dust. A set of front and rear is about £330

    All pads can be found here - http://www.burnmotorsport.com/produc...rake-pads.html

    Rotors wise I have found that the PD and SD have been very popular for the NSX. The heat treated HD and HS are only taken by people looking to do more track driving.

    The PD rotors start from £170 for front and £155 for rears.

    All Rotors here http://www.burnmotorsport.com/produc...-/-rotors.html

    Let me know if you have any questions.

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    Hi Nobby/Senninha. Anything bad to say about the EBC discs? The EBC blanks look like a really good deal if they can take the heat - literally speaking. I am planning on running Carbotech XP8 all around for the track and a stock-like pad for the street.

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    Hi, I've not had any issues but would strongly suggest putting them through a few good heat cycles before using them in anger on track. Rgds Senninha
    Senninha

    'Too many manufacturers today are obsessed with lap times and power outputs at the expense of emotion and fun' Colin Goodwin

    S2 is signed by the NSX Project Leader Shigeru Uehara

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    The xp8's are a good pad for track use. Interesting have a lower fade resistance than the DIXCEL Z types despite the Z types being a true street pad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burn!Motorsport View Post
    The xp8's are a good pad for track use. Interesting have a lower fade resistance than the DIXCEL Z types despite the Z types being a true street pad!
    I had a really good talk with Ian from Carbotech about these pads, and while you can use them on the road he does not recommend it. I will most likely go with Redstuff for daily driving and then only use the Carbotechs for the track. I am testing the Redstuff on my M135i now and have a track day coming up - will see how they handle that

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