New Cayman

[gumball]

Alfa have a rich history of magnificent four pots such as the GTAs and TZs.
I'd even like a twin-air one. Maybe in the future Fiat will make an X1/9 on the same base.

[Papalazarou]

Alfa have a rich history of magnificent four pots such as the GTAs and TZs.
I'd even like a twin-air one. Maybe in the future Fiat will make an X1/9 on the same base.

I'm not knocking Alfas rich history. Only that historically, and I mean then and now. The build quality has never been fantastic. My comment about the engine refers to what is a great functioning unit, but a dull one in such a great looking car. For the application I imagine it's great. and, I'm sure there are very strong reasons to use it over more interesting power-plants. Emissions/power etc.
In many ways it looks like an Elise. Great chassis, dynamics etc. logical engine for the application. But there is an aftermarket preference for the Honda unit, because the OE engines are either a little underpowered or fragile.
Feel free to shoot me down. I may not have thought this one through:-)

Cheers,

James.

[Nick Graves]

We shall have to wait & see which of the new-gen hypercharged engines are reliable and which are bags of shi te. So far, most are the latter.

Sort of like only Daf, Scania & Volvo properly-engineered their engines for turbochargers (wider bearings, oil-cooled pistons & larger water jackets) whilst the MAN & M-B units tended to blow up.

I hope the 4C finally lives up to the image of Alfa Romeo. The reality hasn't for about 40 years.

And we desperately need choice - aside from the boring, default option.

The new Gaybar looks far better, now they have stopped cra pping it down in order to elevate the 911 to mythical status (like Alfa).

[goldtop]

blah blah ... Gayman ... blah blah

blah blah ... Gaybar ... blah blah

Protesting just a bit too much?

[NSX 2000]

I was sent a flyer for a Chiswick Honda open day - featuring (IIRC) the Jazz, Civic and CR-V - even the Koreans have a more exciting range than that!

That's a bit harsh, last year I sold an 18 month old Kia Cee'd (the star in a reasonably priced car one) and a 4 year old Civic, the Civic was the much better car. Plus the last company car we bought is the current Civic which the driver thinks is so much better than the Ford Focus it replaced.

[AR]

With any car does it make sense that the company will come out with the best balls to the wall car they can straight away?

No doubt this Alfa and the Cayman will be followed by special editions that will give customers a reason to change the car!

[britlude]

a small point, but why is this in 'general NSX discussion' and not in off topic?

i really couldn't give a monkeys nuts about the offerings of porsche!

[AR]

a small point, but why is this in 'general NSX discussion' and not in off topic?

i really couldn't give a monkeys nuts about the offerings of porsche!

I think it is in comparison to the next NSX.

[Nick Graves]

Protesting just a bit too much?

Put it this way; The Honda Electric Six has an appeal the Gaybar doesn't, somehow.

[TheSebringOne]

Would be interesting to see how the new Alfa goes? Less than 1000kg, may be 950kg?
250 bhp 2 litre & CF chassis too.

I have a soft spot for Alfas too!