Not on the front!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pride
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Not on the front!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pride
Yes, you're right, actually I was stepping up and I'm running 215/255 or 225/255 on 17/17 resp. 17/18 now. 205/245 was with OEM 16/17 (sold) where it was hard to find matching tires (Hankook and Goodyear were the only reasonable option back then).Quote:
Originally Posted by Pride
I prefer the 225/35/17 over the 215/40/17 because it offers more rubber and is slightly smaller in diameter, smaller enough to avoid rubbing on the inner wheel well on a lowered car fully turned in. But the choice in 225/35/17 is very limited. Hankook does offer its V12 which is working very well. But you can't mount this size on an 17'' OEM front rim as the minimal required width is 7,5'' while OEM 02+ is only 7'' (shame on Honda).
Now have a brand new set of Yokohama AD08r's fitted. They do look good.Quote:
Originally Posted by NSX 2000
What I need to know now is what tyre pressure I should go for. The sticker on the door frame recommends 33psi at the front and 40psi at the rear, but this is for the Dunlop (OEM) tyre.
Start with the same and see how you go. I run 33f & 38r personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by NSX 2000
Spoke with Yokohama HPT yesterday as Neova AD08R in 245/40/17 was out of stock in May.
It's now back in stock so if you need this specific size, time for the shopping.
I reserved mine yesterday and going to install it within a few days.
255 is/was always in stock so that can be a good compromise if you miss this time although Neova seems to be bit wider under load than other models.
Kaz
Anyone besided me gave the Federal 595RS-R a try? It is available in oem 2002+ spec: 215/40 and 255/40/17 inch. I compared the RE050A and the Federal at the track at same day and same conditions. The brake point and curve speed is beyond better than the RE050A. This Federal is also realy cheap, talking about 500 Euro the set of four! And by the way: the Federal has also way more grip the first 100meter than the RE050A does. I love the RE050, but performance-wise the 595R beats him. BEST band for the money IMO.
BTW: check out the new Nankan AR-1 ...comes also soon in 215/40 and 255/40 17inch :D
http://www.nankangtyre.co.uk/perform...otorsport/ar-1
FEDERAL 595-RSR
https://trackparts.ch/bilder/produkt...l-RS-R-595.jpg
NANKANG AR-1
http://www.nankangtyre.co.uk/cache/m..._AR-1_side.png
Good call Austrian type-R, I considered those a few months ago as they looked good and certainly great vfm.Quote:
Originally Posted by austrian type-r
The AR-1's look fantastic and as I now do mainly low mileage each year now I will probably try a set of these when my 888R fronts wear out, which won't be long.
Are they street legal or only for track use as the tread pattern is even more extreme than my 888R's ???
Ditto for past 1k miles but going to drop fronts to 30 (my original setting) as the higher setting introduced understeer in Wales ..Quote:
Originally Posted by NSXGB
I'm back with the Goodyears again. The Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 or 3 comes in NSX sizes or in 17/18. The tires are simply great and it's superior to the Hankooks I had before. The breaking power is far better. The better longlivity compensates for their higher price but it adds better quality over its livetime. I had Goodyears before but had to switch to another brand as the F1 GS-D3 was not easy to get anymore and there was no sporty substitute in NSX sizes.
The last Hankook Evo2 was a bit of a disappointment with only 7'000 km in 255/40/17, the missing rim protector too.
These are what I'm going for with my re-build and wheel upgrade. I have them on my S2000 after the guys at Centre Gravity recommended them and they are an excellent all round tyre. I've taken my S to Curborough Sprint Circuit a couple of times and the tyres performed excellently. Glad someone else is singing their praises.
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Originally Posted by goldnsx
You won't regret it. :) The S2000 is even more critical in terms of fitted tyre. Good to know they work there also.
In the early years I had Bridgestones, S-01, S-03 and the last one I had was the RE050A. It's a stiff and heavy tyre with excellent performance. They also set the record in longlivity (I wonder how I've reached that), contrary to my expectations. But they are beast to mount on the rim. I prefer a medium-soft sidewall now. It doesn't make sense to have one of the lightest rims on the car and fitting an extra heavy tyre like a Bridgestone if there are equivalent and lighter substitutes. That's why I won't go back to Bridgestone again.
Hi. My rears are now old and need replacing. They are Yokohama 245 40 ZR 17 95Y.
I've read Kaz mention Yokohama Advan Neova AD08R and looking online I can find these in 245/40 R17 W(91).
Are these the closest match now available ? I've no idea myself. I drive it slowly, no track days, etc. so don't need long life or high performance just the one that won't cause insurance or traction control issues as Kav has also mentioned.
Is something wrong with the speed rating of these new Yokohama ones or can you get others which are correct but cost the earth ?
Also, does anyone recommend a specific fitter in the north west as I'd like the alignment checked too.
Thanks
The Yokohama Advan Neova AD08R is a very sporty tyre, nearly a semi-slick with a soft tyre compound. Ususal drawbacks with semis: loud, expensive, high wear and not that very safe in rain or at low temps.
If you drive conservatively I'd recommend a good known brand of sport tyres, not semi-slicks to avoid the potential issues mentioned above. Goodyear, Bridgestone, Hankook (in this order) are my favorites for cruising up to spirited street driving.
Yokohama has been 'famous' in the past for NOT having a set of the same tyre model for the front AND the rear of the NSX.
W (up to 270 km/h) would be no problem in Switzerland as it would be in Germany.
Alignement: I know more places NOT to go to then professionals.
I wrote the same thing here regarding the speed rating but whether the insurance company is aware of this fact, that's another story.
Just ask your insurance company and also ask them what happens if the owner installs winter tyre for snow driving.
This was raised to the insurance committee several years ago when we had lots of snow in one winter here in UK.
Speed rating is not as simple as just showing the capable max speed.
There is a reason why it's written together with the load index.
If you have ever visited the tyre manufacture's dyno, you will understand how the speed rating is tested.
The tyre is loaded at the level of load index weight and then the speed is increased at specified rate/time to achieve the max speed.
Speed rating is based on flat surface and load index of 91 and 95 are both over 600kg.
So, if you are driving on the flat road surface at high speed and if your loadcell is reading more than 600kg at each rear corners, you better check your chassis or open the boot to see what's in there.
On flatpatch with corner gauge, standard NSX will show about 350 - 450kg at each rear corner depending on the spec/side and you won't be able to generate enough downforce to achieve load index figure at each corners on flat surface even with the NSX-R aero package.
So, even with W rating of 270kph and unless you can magically generate well over 600kg corner weight at each rear tyres, you are fine. Again, if you are worried about the insurance, just ask them.
Based on your other posts, your NSX is likely to be NA1.
If you have ever tested the NA1 NSX out of the factory without any modifications on the proving ground, you will find it quite challenging to exceed 270kph without following wind.
The speedo on the dash is not accurate enough at this speed region so you need different equipment for this.
NSX is very sensitive to alignment change.
I used to spend more than 2Hrs for adjusting with the place I use.
As goldnsx suggested above, it's not the equipment but more of how the operator adjusts it.
Hope another owner in your area can recommend you a place.
Regarding the tyre, that tiny contact patch is what you are relying to turn/stop the well over 1,000kg metal mass energy under all sorts of conditions.
5mph is enough to throw your body forward if you hit solid wall.
Regardless of NSX or not, please select decent one.
For me, tyre is another engine on our NSX.
Kaz
Like Kaz, I'm very impressed with the AD08Rs on the NSX. Once they've warmed up a bit, but that's also true of the specific-Yokos on the Leg End.
I had the F1As on the Prelude and that was a fantastic car in all conditions. If you do not drive the NSX like you stole it, I cannot see why they'd not be suitable.
HTH.
I too am very impresssed with the Yoko Advans which I bought on Kaz's recommendation. Excellent tyres and not "loud" at all nor any problem in the wet - in fact remarkably stable so I am not sure why that comment was made unless it refers to track speeds. They are not cheap but a bit of Googling can usually turn up a pair at a good price and yes, they are not the longest wearing although given my limited annual mileage that is not a problem for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Graves
As long as semis are in newer condition they are not loud. Semis usually get loud when they are worn below 50%. The risk of aquaplaning also dramatically rises with wear. In the UK you have quite a lot of rain...
This to me is the key point with the AD08R (I've got them fitted and I rate them highly, for reference) - it's a good tyre as long as you understand its' design compromises. Specifically aquaplaning - it's got very limited tolerance for standing water, like all 'track day tyres'. I'd also treat it with a little respect in low temperatures, but that's about it...Quote:
Originally Posted by goldnsx
So if your NSX is a fair-weather friend (so to speak), then aside from extra cost vs the RE040/050A pairing (which I had before and are more 'all-round'), the AD08R is an upgrade - it's more precise, it gives more feedback, it's not noisier (so far), and it's got a fair bit more dry-weather grip. Looks good too, if perhaps being ever-so-slightly TOO wide and square-shouldered.
If you've an NA2 with 17"s all-round, there are more options - I THINK you can still get Michelin Super Sports in those sizes, and that's an excellent tyre - broadly similar performance characteristics to the AD08R but better wet-weather behaviour.
My NSX is a little bit spoiled and/or I'm a little bit too 'sissy' to drive in wet conditions, I only drive it in dry conditions. I also understand the importance of 'grippy' tyres at the front esp. while braking. Maybe the AD08R would have been a good choice but the Goodyears are the better compromise for me I think. It's a little step-up over Hankooks. But the bigger step-up was the complete brake system of the 99/00 model in my case. As I've just bought Goodyears for my two sets I'll have to wait another two years until I can give the AD08R a try. Good to know the rubber of my tyres doesn't get old. Old compound is the worst thing to have.
I use Toyo's 888R on the front, now they are what you call "semi slick" but I find as long as you adapt your driving style to the road and weather conditions you shouldn't run into any problems and as for ageing, 5-6,000 miles max but the grip is phenomenal on dry roads.
Suggestions for 15-inch fronts? The supplies seem to be getting scarcer, and a lot of the suggestions early in this thread are no longer available. I had looked for the Goodyears (to match the rears), but they seem to be long gone.
The easily available options (via the type retailers' online databases) seem to be Pzero, AD08R (bit concerned by the wet weather worries!) and Toyo Proxies.
Thoughts?
Unless you use your car as an everyday driver the 888R's are amazing and for less than £100 each also great VFM.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldtop
I only use them on the fronts and with the large side walls they also offer terrific compliance and a lot of sensitivity.
Even in torrential rain I find you can still drive with confidence at normal speeds for the conditions and when the roads become dry the front end grip you get from the huge contact patch of soft rubber makes you realise why these tyres are used in competition racing, seriously amazing performance.
I must admit that it can be difficult to find a recognised supplier but eBay there's no problem.
Hmmm - I do want to use the NSX whenever I want and without double-guessing the weather. :-/ I don't claim to be a driving god and need every bit of grippy help I can get!
If you're worried about double guessing the weather conditions then I can personally vouch for the AD08, a fantastic all year round high performance tyre.Quote:
Originally Posted by goldtop
You won't be disappointed.
Thanks. :) Ordered and should be on in a couple of days.
Looking to change my tyres (215/40/17s on the front and 255/35/18s on the rear) I'm looking at the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 and the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. Anyone got these, and what do they think?Quote:
Originally Posted by goldnsx
Both fantasic high performance tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Problem Child
The 4S is far superior by all accounts, particularly in the wet, perfect for the wettest of pancake trips.
https://youtu.be/F65rXOlS2f8
6 minutes in sums up this comparison.
Just noticed they only do the 4s in 19s and 20s so no good for us!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pride
we're not exactly spoilt for choice finding matching 17/18 sizes....
its a case of seeing what is available first rather than picking a tyre and presuming its made in the sizes you want!!! there was a thread on prime re. options for 17/18 combo
edit... http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showth...not-much-left?
I've got PS4 all-round on the Civic, which I know is a rather different car. But they feel a small step up from ContiSport 4's - grip a little more, feedback at least as good, good progression, very good in the wet.
Good morning !, what do you think about the tires Yokohama Advan Sport V105 ? I am going to install the original NSX-02 wheels in my car, and I do not know if the flanks are strong enough, I do not find many opinions.
I usually use AD08R, I am very happy ,but they last me very little on the rear wheels. I have the full conversion NSX-02R , suspension, rear swaybar, front sway bar but of the first type R that is somewhat thinner than the 22 mm from 2002 and to drive is much better , Front reinforcement bar,and I have eliminated the lower front bar one and the car is much better(as recommended Kaz :) ), before it was too rigid in front, and 02R engine reinforcement bar,with all the aerodynamics and less weight.
I also use the alignment the last Type-S and I am happy , the setting NSX-02R It is very aggressive for me.
Well, just know if this tires Yoko Sport V105 is a good option, it's cheaper, but I do not know if it will be a good option for my car
Thanks
Wow Nuno, you have invested a lot of time, money and research into your great car in this area.
If it were me I would just buy a pair or even set of those and try them over the next few months to decide for yourself as I'm sure you know what you're hoping for.
If not happy you can always sell them on as used on places like eBay.
Good luck anyway and I will be interested to know what you do.
Hi Pride, I am Remi:) , Nuno is from Portugal
Thanks!!
Sorry😂, I think both of you strive for perfection 👌 so well done.👍Quote:
Originally Posted by NSXR Spain
Hi,
yeap... i'm Nuno ;)
and thanks for the compliment ;)
i usually take too much time to do anything, because i like to do it just once,
ence it's have to be as perfect as i can do it ;)
as for tyres, i'll have to decide what to buy for my 17/18 Advan RSII set.
Thanks,
Nuno
Not so many feedback of V105 on NSX even in Japan.
The owners in Japan tend to go for the OEM one (still available) or AD08R, RE71R, Direzza ZII/III, etc or slick tyres but at reasonable price.
The V105 is within the Yoko's top brand Advan family and the only tyre above it is the AD08R that was developed more towards the grip level whereas the V105 is focused to be selected as the OEM tyre supplier to fulfil the wide variety of strict demands of car manufactures.
Therefore, based on the above and feedback from owners of other makes/models, looked to be very good all-rounder.
I have never seen any replacement tyres with the same level of side shoulder stiffness as the OEM one in OEM size.
AD08R or RE71R are nowhere near the OEM stiffness.
Obviously, if you use different tyre size, that's a different story.
Your chassis setup plays big part on actual feedback/feeling so can't really tell just from the tyre point of view.
Addition to this, the driver is one of the biggest key factor on tyre performance/characteristic feedback.
It's upto the driver on whether one can use the full performance of the tyre or not and how well one can adjust one's driving style to it.
Being fortunate enough to be in the passenger seat of many FIA license holders including the F1 drivers and among them, one of them took me out around my area in his LHD NSX.
His NSX had very basic tyre (it was really cheap one) with almost worn to the limit.
The alignment was completely unbalanced.
It was his first visit to my place but still, his driving was so smooth and much faster than me especially with the braking.
So, in my view, anything with E marked tyre, you can use it and it's up to the driver.
Type-S alignment on European road….
Probably it's your rear toe and camber chewing your tyre then…
After a while I drove my NSX with JDM alignment in UK, I reduced the rear toe but with bit extra camber as I didn't like or even felt dangerous on wet UK road with uneven surface water.
Since then, went through so many tyre sets but even with AD08R, never felt uncomfortable even in wet condition.
Still, it's a compromise compared to the OEM tyre......
Kaz
In the past, one disturbing thing with Yokohama was that they changed the models much too frequently. Even if you found a matching set for the front and the rear in one year you could be sure that you won't be able find them in 1-2 years. That's why I stayed away from Yoko. A mixed setup is a no-go IMHO. I hope it to be more continuous with the AD08R.
Thanks Kaz for the info!! :)
I ordered two rear tires Yokohama Advan Sport V105 that I will ride on the original rims 2002, and I will tell you my impressions
I like driving with the car something hard suspension,I've spent a lot of time on circuits too and that's what I like, what happens is that I have to find a balance to roll on the roads of my city, with potholes, drop-offs, etc, and the typeR alignment is too aggressive from there, I put a thinner front bar and eliminated the lower front bar.
I made a Madrid-Nurburgring two years ago trip with my nsx and I ran out of back rear tires(with NSX-02R alignment), I ate them inside and I had to buy some there to go back to Spain. I bought some Nokian because there were no others, and I was surprised at how good they were.
In my city it does not rain much, and the time in Madrid is usually warm, besides I do not take the car when it rains.
the alignment of the type S does not go badly to me, when taking the car low and with the suspension of the Type R 2002, I believe that it is the most similar thing,anyway, I accept suggestions
Many thanks :)
I already installed the rear tires, size 255/40/17 ,They have spoken well of them, when I try them thoroughly I will comment ,I have to re-align the car
I have realized is that they do not manufacture in size 215/40/17 for front wheels,now I have them combined with the yokohama AD08R
https://i.imgur.com/V0wiCgm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/am04YIL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GV8ZIVc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zk6wx8M.jpg
Can you not fit 225/40/17 on the front???