Bruntingthorpe today 156mph

I agree, most of it I can just about understand, to further add arguement the speeds reached by the non turbo / gt 911's was slower than for the NSX's, the 911 has roughly the same cd and frontal area (as the front end of 911, cayman and boxster is the same car) and the 911's 'should' have the same or more power than the cayman, also added benefit from the LSD.

But, I am thinking about running an NSX dyno day sometime in the future.

http://nsxcb.co.uk/forum2/viewtopic.php?p=11887#11887

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Originally Posted by ctrlaltdelboy

cool - a proper debate :D

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Again, I have to agree with Darren. Like Darren I stopped accelerating at 165, but "Panther" was still pulling very strongly. I just eased off. But there was plenty left in the can.

As for comparisons to the Cayman S....well, I've been up against 996 911's straight line, and found out to my delight that the NSX has better acceleration (albeit with just some minor mods to the NSX). So I would have thought the only NSX struggling against a Cayman would have been an automatic... :?:

Gentlemen, draw your weapons and start taking your twenty paces!

Excellent debate.

I would add that in my experience over numerous laps at the Bedford Autodrome, my 3.0 is slower than a 996 911 Carrera.
I have chased my friend around Bedford countless times. He drives as well/poorly as I do. Coming out of the hairpin at the start of the long straight at around 60 in 2nd, hard on the tail of the 996, it starts to pull away over the km straight. Not massively faster but definitely faster. His maximum speed usually passes 135mph, mine is just under 130. I don't hold back with the revs either.

Go figure.

Mo

This is a great debate!

So here goes with my 2 pennies worth :?

To start with I will compare 2 completely different cars, 1st is a Lotus Esprit GT3 the second an unknown Audi A3, the place a very quiet French auto route. We're doing about 100mph and what looks like a bog standard A3 is stuck on our arse, So I drop down to 4th and boot it, at first the A3 starts to shrink in the rear view mirror then it starts to stay the same and then it's obvious that it's keeping up with us. We get to about 155mph when I bottle it and still this A3 is keeping up. I do know my cars (IMO) and I'm therefore convinced that this A3 must have been chipped as an esprit is made to go fast and an A3 is not! (as explained by Darren in an earlier post).

My second bit of info proved to me, at least, that all this figure business is not what it seems when Top gear took an old V12 XJS jag and put it in drag race with other fast cars. (I'm sure someone will post a link to this clip) but If I remember rightly the NSX came in second, but when they said what the other cars were (They all basically had more BHP than the NSX) then I thought it would come in second to last with it only beating the jag. The car that came first was a 911 Turbo and as I hate them this just confirmed it that I had to have an NSX.

Like I said just my 2 pennies worth, don’t know if adds anything.
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My second bit of info proved to me, at least, that all this figure business is not what it seems when Top gear took an old V12 XJS jag and put it in drag race with other fast cars. (I'm sure someone will post a link to this clip) but If I remember rightly the NSX came in second, but when they said what the other cars were (They all basically had more BHP than the NSX) then I thought it would come in second to last with it only beating the jag. The car that came first was a 911 Turbo and as I hate them this just confirmed it that I had to have an NSX.

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If memory serves me correct the cars in that race were

1) NSX

2) 360 Modena

3) 911 turbo

4) Corvette

5) Venturi

6) Jag

I think the 911 came in second behind the 360 and ahead of the NSX,with the Corvette fourth and the Venturi last.

As i say this is from memory so i may be wrong.

the episode in question was aired on 25th May 2003 and featured David Soul in the reasonably priced car.

here's the clip following the intial drag race, where they add a 200 shot of Nos to the Jag - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbGBKede7Gg

I told you somebody would find the clip :P :P .
Plus its another one to add to the NSX Database :wink:

the complete episode is available as a DivX file of 350MB downloadable as a torrent here http://www.mininova.org/tor/340733 - YOU CAN'T DOWNLOAD THIS UNLESS YOU HAVE A BITTORRENT CLIENT INSTALLED!

the supercar feature starts at 22min 24s in

I'll keep seeding it for a week or so for anyone who wants it.

if you want to get this make sure you have a bittorrent client and the DivX codecs and player - links below

http://bittorrent.com/download.html

http://www.divx.com/divx/windows/

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stuff.....

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But alas no empirical data to prove the genuine 170mph+ capability of a standard NSX in normal conditions. Could Autocar / Honda / EVO etc, etc. really have been wrong all these years? I dont think so.
The only 'proper' evidence I have seen is my own cars 160mph after 1.5miles @ Bruntingthorpe & Simonpreludes 156mph at the same venue. Both suggest a true 165-170mph max in normal conditions.

The mass thing is damned confusing; good job it's less significant in Vmax!

Basically, sometimes dry mass is quotes, kerb mass is determined with differing quantities of squirt required in different regions.

According to the EU CoC, my S2000 weighs 1,199-1,259 dry, 1,320-1,380 wet & with driver.

The handbook gives the EU mass as 1,260 'curb' mass.

NSX-wise, kerb mass of the 3.2 (final model) is quoted as 1,445 (T=1,500).