Hi Jonathan, I too would be interested in the price shipped ....Does it come well packed ...these seem very easy to damage
Kingsley
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Hi Jonathan, I too would be interested in the price shipped ....Does it come well packed ...these seem very easy to damage
Kingsley
the spoiler and fitting kit was $254 shipped from US of A... with the additional parcelfarce ransom demand it was still WAYYYY cheaper than HUK!!!
try SOS, Dali, oemacuraparts.com or your preferred US supplier... all around the same price!
as far as mine, it was packed in the honda box it comes in!
Many thanks, sounds like my next purchase!!
anyway, back to the plot....
also on NSXPrime were warnings of the effects of time on the injector seals. As mine are 20 years old, and seeing how time had affected the bounciness of some of the rubber components at the LMA/cam/water pump/etc change, I wanted to change them anyway.
Now, to kill 2 birds with one stone, and all that, in addition to changing the rubber seals, I thought, with the emission change seen at the last MOT, I’d service the injectors, so started searching companies that had the injector servicing/calibrating facilities.
I found a couple locally, but they wanted £££ for the service, and timescales meant the car would be out of action for 4/5 days with sending/servicing times and return delivery! So I looked at sourcing a spare set of injectors, eventually finding a full set in the good ‘ol U S of A, that had already been cleaned/calibrated, and all rubbers renewed, and all cheaper with delivery than getting mine cleaned!!! Upshot is I have a cleaned set of injectors, and a spare set should I need them (which can be sent anywhere to be serviced as there won’t be the urgency!)
Anyway…. Nice and clean to start off! You can see the connector for the intake air temp sensor beside the fuel line banjo bolt. (Just above the 'H')
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4324/...db6acb9f_o.jpg2012-06-22-846 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
Off with the top cover and the injector covers again!
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4326/...2bdc9045_o.jpg2012-06-22-847 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
injector rails off, and the injectors carefully removed… they just push in, but as the rubbers have been sitting there for 20 years, some moved easily, some were a little more ‘set’…. the most awkward bit was working out how the electrical connectors were latched on....
Anyway here’s how they looked..
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4320/...c02f3fc7_o.jpg2012-06-22-853 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
(the end ones had already been wiped before the pic!) The grubby build-up was as expected after seeing the intake temp sensor….
The new and the old… not a lot of difference! shiny and fresh with the all important new rubbers
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4297/...413ffbfc_o.jpg2012-06-22-850 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
refitting them was nice and simple, just making sure the seats were clean, and everything fitted together smoothly. After these were changed, I can report fuel consumption has improved, the run to Goodwood festival of speed was definitely less juicy!
… then the gearbox broke……now if that were only 4 or 5 days
.
Oh bummer, what happened to your box? Was it the snap ring?
automatic gearbox deciding it didn't want to play with 2nd or 4th after years of faithful service!
here's the lowdown on the whole sorry saga....
http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/showthread.ph...ts-of-pics-too
Whilst the car was playing host to a dead gearbox, I took the opportunity to do a coolant hose refresh! well i had to find something to do!
So a set of hoses was ordered from our friends across the Atlantic, excluding the 6 main hoses that I’d already purchased in silicone.. lots of bags!
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4296/...1ee5fe5b_o.jpg2012-08-02-1327 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
silicon set
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4300/...8e2d7224_o.jpg2012-04-06-184 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
tha car was jacked up on one side and axle stands placed, and the centre tunnel hoses could be swapped out.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4324/...5f5e8b9f_o.jpg2012-08-02-1328 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
draining…
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4298/...f8f03c56_o.jpg2012-08-02-1330 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
ok a boring pic, but it's an action shot, honest!
After an inordinate amount of struggling and associated swearing, the decision was made to cut the hoses off. 19 years of sitting there was a hard habit to break, so a careful cut with a sharp blade and peeling the rubber back was the best option. Minutes later the old hoses were off.
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4304/...df6bdbba_o.jpg2012-08-02-1331 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
now, there wasn’t any ‘ballooning’ of the pipes, but they were definitely past their best. If I bent the hose, you could hear the individual strands of the reinforcing webbing snapping, almost like rice crispies ‘snap-crackle-and-pop’! By contrast, the new shiny fresh ones bent without distress!
fortunately the pipes were in good condition
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4293/...ecd7097c_o.jpg2012-08-02-1335 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
with the aid of a couple of parts lists, the hoses were sorted, fitted and crossed off!
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4305/...a6354112_o.jpg2012-08-02-1336 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
soon enough they were all changed (here’s most of them!)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4311/...fc068a27_o.jpg2012-08-02-1338 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
note the extra length pliers, definitely helped in the more inaccessible areas!
Of special mention are the oil cooler connections. Many threads tell of what a pain these are, and yes they are! One hose is about 3 inches long and straight. The 2 pipes it fits to are a snug fit, and only have about half an inch between them, so be warned the oil filter unit HAS to come off. Cutting the old hoses off rather than trying to pull them off the pipe ends will save you a whole lot of swearing! Lol
whilst I was there I gave the rear suspension a good clean with the Simple Green precision (specially for aluminium) cleaner….
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4296/...8b376b04_o.jpg2012-08-02-1340 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
I also gave the steel bits a treatment with some rust stabiliser product, you know the type of stuff, turns rust into not rust!
Before
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4309/...edde9204_o.jpg2012-08-07-1487 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
during
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4317/...0bd1a405_o.jpg2012-08-07-1488 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
after
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4302/...18f4bd56_o.jpg2012-08-09-1497 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
the steel parts are now a bit more rust resistant! ok, they don't look much different, but without the flash they are black!
You had to go a ruine a perfectly good thread didn't you .... how dare you mention the un-mentionable 'Simple Green precision (specially for aluminium) cleaner….'
and as for the steel rust cleaner ... looks like you could do with some on the discs ;o)
in my defence, the car had been standing for about a month at that point!!!
but the rust on the braking surface was from washing the suspension the day before the rust treatment.... doesn't take long!!
Just pulling your leg Jonathan ... I don't suppose you found the template for my little project while you were bored did you? I'm doing some odd jobs on mine and it would be stood time to install that part .... Fingers crossed
Regards, Paul
just to bulk out my hose order i got a main relay too... nothing wrong with mine (i've soldered it up already years ago) but thought i might as well!
the new and the old....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4310/...7cbf5241_o.jpg2012-08-21-1572 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
or was it the old and the new.......????
quick boring update...
118400... oil change !!
plus i dropped the exhaust box, and replaced the fixings for the box to cats, and the cat covers with stainless bolts and brass nuts.
i chose brass nuts as stainless nuts with stainless bolts can gaul and seize in extreme environments (copper slip can help, but doesn't guarantee they won't seize)... been there, done that, had to cut things apart!
apparently, if you mix the grade of stainless (ie. A2 nuts, A4 bolts) the problem doesn't happen, but it's easier to get brass nuts!
forgot to add the latest tweak/update...
Christmas 2012 saw very little action as the weather was foul, but i did tweak my DRL/indicator units (that i'd also forgot to mention here) and fit a set of fast HID lamps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snzEH3VDFkk
full details in this thread..... http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/showthread.ph...e-will-be-pics!)
for most of the NSX in this country, they are wrapped up in a nice warm garage, but alas mine is a daily driver so still being enjoyed!!! so with this in mind, just before the first lot of snow of the season (literally 3 days before!), i dug out the original 15/16 wheels, fitted winter tyres, and put them on the car.... OMG they look tiny after the 17/18 combo, and sooo far under the arches!
while the fat wheels were off i decided to give them a spruce up! so now I'm doing mods to mods that i have already modded!
the tyres let down, the 31 rim bolts on each wheel were removed and the centres popped out. i then sand blasted them and primed with etch primer....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4326/...194e7003_o.jpg2013-02-22-2423 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
before being based in black
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/...0418f079_o.jpg2013-02-22-2427 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
now you are wheely showing off ! (*grimace)
Don't give up the day job Mike ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sorepaws
while the centres were out of the rims, i decided i was fed up with the inners always being dirty/stained, so a paint up was in order! i gave them an etch prime and tried some plastidip on them for a nice matt black finish....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4301/...04b72084_o.jpg2013-02-25-2434 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4317/...e6156caf_o.jpg2013-02-25-2435 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
then it was a case of finishing the paint, and putting them all back together, just the 31 bolts in each wheel!!
now that the weather has finally perked up it was time to take the '92 wheels with my winter tyres off the car and refit these....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4317/...e6156caf_o.jpg2013-02-25-2435 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
hurrah, spring has finally sprung!
the colour i've gone for (couldn't be just black now could it) is maybe a bit too subtle, so might have to paint them a bit brighter next year.. maybe closer to the cube wheels in the background.... still, it's only paint!
but get the light at the right angle they come alive...
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4316/...db59d680_o.jpg2013-03-03-2452 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
with the nice shiny wheels back on and looking fabulous, this has obviously shown up just how icky the brake discs look, with their nice orange rusty centres and edges,
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4320/...6d7536b4_o.jpg2013-04-14-2543 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
so a pot of high temp matt black is winging it's way to me, just to tidy things up a bit....
Interesting choice for the centres Jonathan ... probably need to dress the tyres to help show them off once you've sorted those tired looking brakes (a job I've just completed too!)
as is typical i treated the tyres after looking at the pics! in reality the wheels are black with a hint of not black about them on the highlights :)
i got the little pot of heat resistant paint today,
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4304/...8b07ba9a_o.jpg2013-04-20-2572 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
heat resistant to 600 degrees centigrade and in brush on, as the aerosol sprays would have been too messy....
so here's the before...
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4298/...589fbc27_o.jpg2013-04-20-2560 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
obviously no ideal behind the shiny refurbished wheels.... so the wheel was taken off and work could begin!
first up the raw disc! you can't even tell it's vented in the pic!
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4297/...b9c0e88a_o.jpg2013-04-20-2564 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
this was wire brushed off to get rid of the loose stuff and clean it ready for paint...
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/...c19a85ef_o.jpg2013-04-20-2565 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
looking better already! also the discs have the grooves cast into them... not sure if that makes them cheap or expensive as all the other discs i've seen have the grooves machined in afterwards!
so a single coat of black was applied to the edge and the centre hat...
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4294/...3a9447ba_o.jpg2013-04-20-2566 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
the disc grooves were given a thinned 'wash' of paint to colour them up and provide a little protection to stop the rusting returning... obviously the braking faces were carefully cleaned of paint!! i only painted the edge of the hat, rather than make issues with the hub face having paint on it!
anyway, they look alot better....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/...b9fa9d3c_o.jpg2013-04-20-2568 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
so that was the fronts sorted! while the wheels were off the suspension arms got a wipe down with some Gibbs brand oil, ideal for protecting bare metals.
Do you simply wipe this over the suspension components Jonathan? As its also a penetrating oil, does it not harm any of the non metal components in the suspension?Quote:
Originally Posted by britlude
I've finished cleaning mine and currently just treated it to a good coating of bodywork wax.
regards, Paul
the same was done to the rears, again the raw untouched disc...
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4291/...efaa196c_o.jpg2013-04-20-2555 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
wirebrushed off to prep for paint....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4304/...27801b95_o.jpg2013-04-20-2556 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
and some paint applied...
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4327/...8d77b03f_o.jpg2013-04-20-2557 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
and with the wheel back on...
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/...06dee388_o.jpg2013-04-20-2558 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
alot better! the paint air dries but is cured by heat ( it's designed for chimneys/ barbequeues/ exhausts and other hot stuff!) so once it was all basically dry, i took the car around the block, getting some heat into the discs and paint!
when back home, all was well, the paint cured to a nice satin black, and far far better than the rusty mess that was there before!
another job jobbed! hurrah!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Senninha
yup, i just gave the aluminium a spray and wipe over as the aluminium was dirty and/or a bit dry! it gets used too much to be immaculate!!!!
it'll get a simple green treatment later!
Thanx ... overall effect looks good ... so whats next on the agenda? My widget perhaps ;o)
next on the 'get it ready for Japfest' was the interior, so the floormats were taken out and given a damn good pressure wash! the carpets hoovered and the seats given a glyptone clean and condition. the centre console was taken out and given a quick respray to sort the scratches from useage!
while i was there i decided to do something about the sill trim bits.. (the hockey stick shaped bits of plastic that finish the carpet edge)
quite scuffed when the plastic was given a panel-wipe clean
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4310/...51000752_o.jpg2013-04-27-2584 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
so they were given a couple of coats of plasti-dip that i had left from doing the wheels....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4301/...eae0a1fe_o.jpg2013-04-27-2585 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
then it was a case of letting it dry....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4294/...333eda46_o.jpg2013-04-27-2586 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
came out nice :)
so before and after....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4327/...cf240e06_o.jpg2013-04-27-2582 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4315/...5bb5b8f9_o.jpg2013-04-27-2587 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
and when they scuff up again it's just a case of peeling off the rubberised coating and re-applying!
.... one thing i have noticed with this plasti-dip is that the colour coverage is appalling! when i first tested it i thought they had sent me a can of 'smoke' coloured instead of 'black', the colour bulk was just not there... you'd think the wood i sprayed them on would have been a little blacker with the overspray!
I've often wondered about the rejuvenating qualities of the plastidip.
Awesome job Jon.
Cheers.
Impressed with the Plasti-dipping. Black Plasti-Dip seems quite hard to get hold of unless you want to pay through the nose on eBay..
EDIT. Just wondering how close the colour match is to the OE centre console black?
http://www.plastidip.co.uk/eStore/in...n&pid=PDL-0009
going direct is sometimes cheaper!
did the ends of the sill pads too.... as the new trims made these look tatty. these needed a gentle flat off to reduce a couple of deep gouges...
before... (cleaned again with panel-wipe which removes any previous treatments and makes them look FAR worse!!!)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4305/...893be418_o.jpg2013-04-28-2588 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
and after....
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4291/...e4852413_o.jpg2013-04-28-2593 by jon sutherland, on Flickr2013-04-28-2588 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
somewhat better
That's the first time I've seen it in stock, thanks!
the last of the new bits i got for the car were a pair of front window sash triangle things... these...
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4301/...1b21d869_o.jpg2013-04-28-2589 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
from our friends across the Atlantic, rather than the frankly ridiculous price HUK want!
anyway, doors stripped down to get to the mounting bolts and new units swapped in. (the old/new unit)
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4329/...fa2e4fd0_o.jpg2013-04-28-2590 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
and the reason for the change... new and the old
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4319/...d562be91_o.jpg2013-04-29-2594_1 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
while they were off i cleaned the window weather seals (top of the door, bottom of the glass)! these have lost their pliability over the last 20 years, so looking at replacing them later (the drivers side has shrunk in length too and i've had to 'fill' the gap) what i really want to do is replace just the flocked rubber piece that clips onto the aluminium extrusion! obviously the cheap rubber bit isn't listed seperately to the stupidly expensive extrusion!
lings list at....
11 PFKL785257 MOLDING ASSY., R. DOOR £413.54 (€471.44) ($661.66) 001 contact us - coloured part Add Wish List
14 PFKL785623 MOLDING ASSY., L. DOOR £413.54 (€471.44) ($661.66) 001 contact us - coloured part Add Wish List
so the hunt is on for some extruded rubber.... i shall have to investigate further, or adapt something like this....
http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/product/Flocked_Window_Trim_Drip_Seal_FWT
the original rubber has a double seal arrangement, BUT once the water is past the first seal what's the point of the second? it's already in the door itself and can only drain out the end of the channel into the door! ok, these only have the one seal, but i see the second as redundant anyway!
and these at less than a tenner a side it's more like it!
the door moulding rubber saga is detailed here
http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/showthread.php?11148-Door-moulding-rubber-refresh
the upshot is it's possible to stretch the rubber back into length/position with a couple of dots of super-glue!
normal service will resume!
obviously this does go against my 'if it works tell the world, if it doesn't, bury the evidence and don't tell anybody' ethos, but it did come good in the end!
Big update, been busy!!!!
Post japfest play! Yup, I’ve been fiddling with the car again, sorting a couple of niggles that have been bugging me.
The bottom screen trim has always been iffy, an unfortunate consequence of the car living outside all year! So, knowing the clips for the screen trim will more than likely be broken, a new set was ordered from Lings, and duly delivered…
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4309/...8a73b303_o.jpg2013-05-17-2697 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
along with 4 new bumpers for the headlights to open against, to replace the 3(!) that had turned to black concrete…
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4313/...6e466a4b_o.jpg2013-05-17-2711 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
ok, lings weren’t the cheapest (obviously as they are UK based) but delivery was quick!
So with the screen clips in hand I could begin! This is what was bugging me….
Crusty corners
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/...fc12565e_o.jpg2013-05-17-2692 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
and blotchy/stained/icky in the middle!
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4327/...43317c83_o.jpg2013-05-17-2700 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
So once the trim had been treated to a good scrub with some panel wipe cleaner stuff, I armed myself with an aerosol can of plastidip and set to!!! A couple of coats and I was done. Some of the application was a little splattery, but I think that was because the can was getting a bit low, but the plastidip did smooth out, so all good! I’ll probably use plastidip from a pot with a proper spray gun when I find more stuff to coat!
Anyway… a before….
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4317/...3f8d934f_o.jpg2013-05-17-2698 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
and after….
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4323/...bc69652a_o.jpg2013-05-17-2717 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
and just to complete it, the same fitted….
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4321/...cb7aec2b_o.jpg2013-05-17-2693 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4324/...f5d58c5f_o.jpg2013-05-17-2725-1 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
a vast improvement!!!!
***handy hint alert***
Whilst at Japfest, I noticed some stuff, as you do!... does this look familiar?
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4322/...7e9c7e19_o.jpg2013-05-17-2695 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
the famous missing strut top cover grommet!
Now while the car was all apart I thought I’d take pics and share my solution…
You need an old piece of rubber hose (you’ll have plenty after servicing you NSX hoses!!!) Find one with the hose inside diameter just bigger than the hole in the scuttle trim..
Cut the hose so that it’s an angled wedge sorta thing, about 14mm on one side, and 25mm on the other….
A bit like this..
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4297/...dcf6c084_o.jpg2013-05-17-2702 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
and fits on the top of the strut…
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4307/...723f8ed4_o.jpg2013-05-17-2703 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
so the top is flat to the scuttle trim…
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4314/...81a6706f_o.jpg2013-05-17-2705 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
excuse the dirt, I did clean it…..
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4312/...eec27908_o.jpg2013-05-17-2708 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
now the scuttle can’t ‘bounce’ as you drive, which is what allowed the strut top to push the grommet out!
Quick aside…. **handy hint 2!***
in the above pic you can see that the filter for the heater intake is working fine!!! Another shot…
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4319/...7f9e7155_o.jpg2013-05-17-2707 by jon sutherland, on Flickr
Mentioned first on NSXPrime, and on here at http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/showthread.php?7122-cured-the-typical-screen-misting-i-hope!
Anyway back to the plot…
It’s now shiny behind the trim!!!
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4306/...cc788179_o.jpg2013-05-17-2709 by jon sutherland, on Flickr