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Sudesh
27-05-2010, 09:59 AM
Anyone know the standard paint code for cars with black roof?

Sudesh
27-05-2010, 10:17 AM
Just found it

PeteM
27-05-2010, 10:20 AM
Come on tell us what it is!

Sudesh
27-05-2010, 10:26 AM
Come on tell us what it is!

Berlina Black, same as the body on Berlina black cars *NH547*

Kaz-kzukNA1
27-05-2010, 10:27 AM
NH-547 or 547 1

If I remember correctly, the forward section of the roof panel had special undercoat primer for chipping protection.

Kaz

gcon45
27-05-2010, 10:47 AM
I have been wondering this myself as I'm planning on having mine painted.

I've just noticed that Berlina Black is basically one paint tinter plus a little thinner (in water based):

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/914/29885737.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/29885737.jpg/)

Sudesh
27-05-2010, 11:14 AM
Hi Connor,

I have a guy down with me at the moment looking at the mark in my Bump & Run thread. I also have a very small sun fade spot on a B pillar so hence why I was looking at the paint code.

He has an online system also and when he puts in the NH547, it gives him a few colors to mix including white, think its 3 types of black and a white.

gcon45
27-05-2010, 11:22 AM
NH54*** will bring up a few Honda colours.

When you narrow it down to NH547 though there will only be one.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4505/41791706.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/41791706.jpg/)

Sudesh
27-05-2010, 11:29 AM
Yeah I know, he's using the full NH547

gcon45
27-05-2010, 11:50 AM
Yeah I know, he's using the full NH547

Sorry - I think I misunderstood you there Sudesh.

Do you mean that there is more than one tinter in his mix for NH547?

If it's a water-based system he's using the last tinter isn't actually white - it's a water based-thinner, which is basically de-ionised water.

We're using the De Beer system however so our tinter scheme may be different to what he's using.

Sudesh
27-05-2010, 04:35 PM
Connor I didnt get a chance to ask him much more as I had to head off and left him too it, but he did mention different scheme's with different paint brands. Anyway ended up he didnt have to paint anything, he was able to use some wet sanding with 1500 grit I think, and then buffed out the fade marks and it looks fantatic now!




Sorry - I think I misunderstood you there Sudesh.

Do you mean that there is more than one tinter in his mix for NH547?

If it's a water-based system he's using the last tinter isn't actually white - it's a water based-thinner, which is basically de-ionised water.

We're using the De Beer system however so our tinter scheme may be different to what he's using.

gcon45
27-05-2010, 05:32 PM
Nice one Sudesh!

Did the guy measure the paint depth or was he just very brave?

Sudesh
27-05-2010, 07:02 PM
He had all the gear Connor, but I have no idea as I couldnt wait round. It really wasnt that bad but me being fussy just wanted it sorted.


Nice one Sudesh!

Did the guy measure the paint depth or was he just very brave?

Nick Graves
27-05-2010, 07:18 PM
The black roof paint seems very thin - there were a couple of areas on the edges of the B and A pillar trims on mine where it had been polished off and the NFR underneath was visible.

A Honda tube of NH547 I happened to have lying around and some buffing has fixed those.

It is a very deep, true black (not the greys most manufacturers think are black) and it's odd to think there's anything white in it.

Kaz-kzukNA1
27-05-2010, 08:43 PM
The magic trick and final touch for vivid and true dark black is the touch of white mixed to the black. Lots of designers use this technique.

Kaz

Sudesh
27-05-2010, 08:48 PM
So the guy's system wasnt far wrong then!

He actually made me up a touch up pen in NH547 and just looked the same as my roof, havent used it or need to use it yet, But on a dab comparison was perfect.




The magic trick and final touch for vivid and true dark black is the touch of white mixed to the black. Lots of designers use this technique.

Kaz

jaytip
28-05-2010, 12:34 AM
I have been wondering this myself as I'm planning on having mine painted.

Unless you plan on never selling the car i would just stick with the wrap if i were you.A potential purchaser may prefer the all red,and at least with the wrap it can just be peeled off.Painting it is a big step.

Just my 0.2p of course.

Nick Graves
28-05-2010, 07:40 AM
Thanks for that Kaz.

It's really quite amazing and slightly counter-intuitive; there's no true black, merely shades of grey!