03 NSX on Pistonheads

[gcon45]

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1634823.htm

£36,250?

Ascari red?

Hmmm...

[Sudesh]

Thats Baz's car

Ascari red is a solid color.

http://www.nsxcb.co.uk/testvb/showthread.php?t=6460&highlight=paint+codes

[jaytip]

Ascari Red and New Formula Red are the same colour.

[gcon45]

Ascari red is a superseeded Honda colour on my De Beer system at work.
R510 is coming up as 'New Formula Red' on here with the mutation date being 1999.

EDIT - Jay, beat me to it!

[Sudesh]

Yeah started out as Ascari and renamed later to New Formula Red

Some more color info:

http://www.nsxprime.com/w/index.php?title=Colors&direction=prev&oldid=1486

[rocco1]

This car has been featured in this months EVO MAG,looks the buisness,is it worth £36250?

[gcon45]

I would have thought that was late 04 money with sub 10k miles.

[Senninha]

This car has been featured in this months EVO MAG,looks the buisness,is it worth £36250?

Have you got £36,250? Do you want a fully maintained and carefully owned NSX? Do you think you will find another one this clean?

If you answer yes to the above then you've answered your own question. NA2's are becoming rarer, with fixed or pop-up lights. Several have left these shores for Hong Kong. These cars have slowed re depreciation, and maybe even increased in value over the past couple of years.

With all that said, any car is only worth what someone is prepared to pay. I probably paid above market value for mine 4 years ago. Today its worth pretty close to what I paid, not that its for sale. And there in lies the other problem for prospective keepers ... the current owners of good cars are not selling them. So if you see the one you want, I'd say go and get it while you can.

The choice is yours, I hope to see you driving one soon :) and if its this one, we'll see you at Japfest in May!

regards, Paul

[rocco1]

Thanks for the advice, the trouble is theres a NSX 1991 with 14000 miles up for sale on this site,the asking price is £26500,wow, are they really worth that much? The next question is, which one to go for,which one guys? The pop up lights version or the facelift version?

[gcon45]

Thanks for the advice, the trouble is theres a NSX 1991 with 14000 miles up for sale on this site,the asking price is £26500,wow, are they really worth that much? The next question is, which one to go for,which one guys? The pop up lights version or the facelift version?

Whichever takes your fancy really. It's only aesthetics.

That 91 car is highly priced due to it's low mileage and good condition I'd say.

[NSXGB]

If I was looking at the moment, the silver 3.2 pop up would be top of the list. It's a bargain.

[m666 edd]

Yeah me too for sure. Then get it resprayed another colour :D:laugh:

[markc]

This car has been featured in this months EVO MAG,looks the buisness,is it worth £36250?


Thanks for the advice, the trouble is theres a NSX 1991 with 14000 miles up for sale on this site,the asking price is £26500,wow, are they really worth that much? The next question is, which one to go for,which one guys? The pop up lights version or the facelift version?


If I was looking at the moment, the silver 3.2 pop up would be top of the list. It's a bargain.

All 3 cars are worth every penny their current owners are asking for them. Get in quick before some lucky people snap them up :)

Cheers

Mark

[TheSebringOne]

Pop up V non pop up = personal preference

High price V middle/low price = What you are willing to pay

Fast colour V slow colour = argument goes on!

Buy now V wait to buy = Depends how patient you are

Rocco 1 = buy one now or ASAP :)

[jaytip]

This car has been featured in this months EVO MAG,looks the buisness,is it worth £36250?
Well i sold my 04(54) plate NSX about a year ago with only 15K miles on it for £37K,so personally,no,i wouldn't pay the asking price of £36,250,but then,the asking price of mine was £38K,so maybe you can get the price down a bit.

[AR]

Well i sold my 04(54) plate NSX about a year ago with only 15K miles on it for £37K,so personally,no,i wouldn't pay the asking price of £36,250,but then,the asking price of mine was £38K,so maybe you can get the price down a bit.

Yes but at that time there were more available. I sold my NSX-R for 29.5 IIRC but try getting one for that now. :)

[AR]

The next question is, which one to go for,which one guys? The pop up lights version or the facelift version?

The Supercharged facelifted version for sure. :)

[Sudesh]

From watching prices of these cars over the past 3 years, I believe they are creeping back up for good examples. Jay when you sold yours, it was around the time everyone was talking about recession and cars had taken a huge hit, I had my second 4.6is X5 around then too, and ended up selling it cheap, now they are fetching 3 to 4k more and making that as I just sold another 4.6is and got the asking price for it.

[WhyOne?]

Paul's (Senninha) post sums up the situation pretty well for me.

The market is a peculiar one at the moment because of the weakness of sterling vs. Yen.

What may appear expensive to a prospective UK buyer, may look like a bargain (even with the cost of shipping) to someone in HK or Japan.

As a seller, you will naturally want to realise as much as possible for your car, and will not care particularly whether that money comes from the UK or further afield.

I would not be at all surprised to see Baz's car head 'home'.

[Sudesh]

What may appear expensive to a prospective UK buyer, may look like a bargain (even with the cost of shipping) to someone in HK or Japan.

Shipping wouldnt be that much, around £800 to £1000

[markc]

Well i sold my 04(54) plate NSX about a year ago with only 15K miles on it for £37K,so personally,no,i wouldn't pay the asking price of £36,250,but then,the asking price of mine was £38K,so maybe you can get the price down a bit.

Let's ensure we don't have another discussion that drives prices down again. This forum has rather an odd propensity to indulge prospective buyers and allow them to do that!?!


I would not be at all surprised to see Baz's car head 'home'.

Barry should remember to add the NS'export tax to his locally advertised price. I'm not joking, he wants the best price possible and it's bound to be a bit more hassle dealing with an export client.

Cheers

Mark

[AR]

NSX Prices are firming up moire so now that we are sort of out of the crunch and into the summer.

Mark check your PM mate.

Cheers,

AR

[jaytip]

Let's ensure we don't have another discussion that drives prices down again. This forum has rather an odd propensity to indulge prospective buyers and allow them to do that!?!

Mark
The Guy asked if it was worth the asking price,i simply gave my opinion.You or i are not going to dictate prices with our individual opinions.At the end of the day,people will only pay what they think it's worth regardless of price.
Am i saying it won't fetch the asking price-no i am not.I'm simply saying I wouldn't pay the asking price.

[jaytip]

Yes but at that time there were more available. I sold my NSX-R for 29.5 IIRC but try getting one for that now. :)
Ary i think at the time you bought/owned/sold your Type-R,people didn't realise/know the true market value of them.With the NSX generally becoming more affordable,people are looking into ownership of rare NSX's and the REAL value of the type-R is now becoming known.

[JQD84983]

Well i sold my 04(54) plate NSX about a year ago with only 15K miles on it for £37K,so personally,no,i wouldn't pay the asking price of £36,250,but then,the asking price of mine was £38K,so maybe you can get the price down a bit.

Ivor mate time flies. it will be two years in July :). And TBH I would want that kind of money for it now.

I think the price was fair and for me what's changed is the weak pound. Now its is really favourable to buy here and ship to Japan / Hong Kong or wherever.

But you are spot on Ivor its supply and demand. And as the guy from Leeds who sold his earlier in the year said, all these UK enthusiasts desperately want one until it comes to paying the market price.

[Senninha]

Can anyone add some light to a comment I had earlier today regarding the HK interests.

The thought was that it is the 03 plus cars that are of interest? Is this accurate or due to an age import restriction? Is there a geniune reason why HK buyers would not be interested in the right car regardless of its age?

Interested to know if anyone can shed some light on the question.

regards, Paul

[markc]

At the end of the day, people will only pay what they think it's worth regardless of price.

Absolutely, and no one here is disagreeing with that... a free market decides the price of everything including used NSX's.


Am i saying it won't fetch the asking price-no i am not. I'm simply saying I wouldn't pay the asking price.

Which is a reasonable opinion but one that provides advice to a prospective owner (rocco1) at the possible expense of an existing one (Bazza) here.

Owners clubs and owners forums usually exist to bring like minded enthusiasts together, to share knowledge, advice, experiences and yes, provide buying advice to potential owners.

Most Clubs/Forums "support" the secondhand prices of their subject with the aim of keeping them up, it's in the our interest as owners after all. All too often this forum leans toward the negative side which is strange, and IMHO I think we should try to avoid doing it.

Cheers

Mark

[Silver Surfer]

Can anyone add some light to a comment I had earlier today regarding the HK interests.

The thought was that it is the 03 plus cars that are of interest? Is this accurate or due to an age import restriction? Is there a geniune reason why HK buyers would not be interested in the right car regardless of its age?

Interested to know if anyone can shed some light on the question.

regards, Paul

Dixon should know as he is in connection with the HK market.

SS

[Senninha]

You get my vote :beer:


.........Most Clubs/Forums "support" the secondhand prices of their subject with the aim of keeping them up, it's in our interest as owners after all. All too often this forum leans toward the negative side which is strange, and IMHO I think we should try to avoid doing it.

Cheers

Mark

[AR]

Just wished that was the NSXCB concensus when I sold the R. :)

[Senninha]

Just wished that was the NSXCB concensus when I sold the R. :)

Actually I should have bought before you got hold of it and sold the unique bits and pieces that made it extra special. Unfortunately for me and based on family history, I couldn't own a green car .... but its still an itch!

[Sudesh]

Can get you a nice Type-s landed and on the road for £64k!

[jaytip]

Which is a reasonable opinion but one that provides advice to a prospective owner (rocco1) at the possible expense of an existing one (Bazza) here.
It's not at the expense of Barry though is it! If a potential buyer offers him a price he's not happy with,he's not forced to sell.


Owners clubs and owners forums usually exist to bring like minded enthusiasts together, to share knowledge, advice, experiences and yes, provide buying advice to potential owners.
I agree,at the end of the day i have owned more NSX's than most on this site,and only parted company with each of them due to circumstances outside of my control,so you are not talking to someone who put's down the price of an NSX just for the sake of it.I'm just realistic.If Barry's car was listed at 34K+ i wouldn't have said anything,because that's about what I think it's worth.MOST owners clubs see their favoured car through rose coloured lenses and always hope/think that their cars are worth more than they are.
Let's put it into perpective.A well cared for 02 NSX is going to fetch far more money than an equivalent 996 even though the Porche is in real terms as good a car,so they are hardly bargains are they.


Most Clubs/Forums "support" the secondhand prices of their subject with the aim of keeping them up, it's in the our interest as owners after all. All too often this forum leans toward the negative side which is strange, and IMHO I think we should try to avoid doing it.
Please don't accuse me of leaning toward negativity reagarding the NSX because you couldn't be further from the truth.As John pointed out earlier,it's been almost two years since i sold my last one and i still frequent this site daily because i still love the car.

[havoc]

Let's put it into perpective.A well cared for 02 NSX is going to fetch far more money than an equivalent 996 even though the Porche is in real terms as good a car,so they are hardly bargains are they.

:cough: Running costs :cough:

[jaytip]

:cough: Running costs :cough:
I agree with you-if you take it to a main dealer,but there are plenty of Porche specialists out there,but that's beside the point,what i meant was usability,reliabilty and performance.

[markc]

It's not at the expense of Barry though is it! If a potential buyer offers him a price he's not happy with,he's not forced to sell.

The last statement is true, however negative comments regarding an asking price or value of a particular vehicle are always going to be to the sellers detriment and ultimately their expense.


I agree,at the end of the day i have owned more NSX's than most on this site,and only parted company with each of them due to circumstances outside of my control,so you are not talking to someone who put's down the price of an NSX just for the sake of it.I'm just realistic.

I respect your knowledge and experience but I don't think it's helpful to anyone except prospective buyers to comment anything other than positively on an existing owners asking price.


If Barry's car was listed at 34K+ i wouldn't have said anything,because that's about what I think it's worth.

How is this not negative though?


MOST owners clubs see their favoured car through rose coloured lenses and always hope/think that their cars are worth more than they are.

Agreed... but surely one of the reasons they exist is to help keep prices strong by enthusing about their subject and actively supporting strong residual values?


Let's put it into perpective.A well cared for 02 NSX is going to fetch far more money than an equivalent 996 even though the Porche is in real terms as good a car,so they are hardly bargains are they.

Arguably true but supply and demand means there are a lot more 996's to choose from. I agree that a clean well maintained 996 is a steal at the prices they're currently changing hands for.


Please don't accuse me of leaning toward negativity reagarding the NSX because you couldn't be further from the truth.As John pointed out earlier,it's been almost two years since i sold my last one and i still frequent this site daily because i still love the car.

The only negativity regards pricing/value :)

Actually I wasn't pointing a finger at you specifically with my original comment about not having a discussion that drives prices down, however you have subsequently defended that position.


Can get you a nice Type-s landed and on the road for £64k!

Anyone wanna buy a nice UK registered one for £63,999 ;)

Cheers

Mark

[jaytip]

The last statement is true, however negative comments regarding an asking price or value of a particular vehicle are always going to be to the sellers detriment and ultimately their expense.



I respect your knowledge and experience but I don't think it's helpful to anyone except prospective buyers to comment anything other than positively on an existing owners asking price.



How is this not negative though?



Agreed... but surely one of the reasons they exist is to help keep prices strong by enthusing about their subject and actively supporting strong residual values?



Arguably true but supply and demand means there are a lot more 996's to choose from. I agree that a clean well maintained 996 is a steal at the prices they're currently changing hands for.



The only negativity regards pricing/value :)

Actually I wasn't pointing a finger at you specifically with my original comment about not having a discussion that drives prices down, however you have subsequently defended that position.



Anyone wanna buy a nice UK registered one for £63,999 ;)

Cheers

Mark
Look let's just agree to disagree.You are blowing this all out of proportion.If i slated the car and said it's not worth anywhere near the asking price fair enough,have a go at me,but i didn't.I simply stated I wouldn't pay that much.I didn't tell the Rocco1 that it is a stupidly expensive car or that it was crap.If you see that as being negative toward the NSX then i guess you are just too sensitive about their used values.
Take a look through my posts,you wont see me slating other peoples cars.I simply gave my opinion on the asking price.If someone said it was worth every penny,i wouldn't jump on the keyboard and accuse them of trying to keep the prices high,it's their opinion and i accept it.If someone accused me of selling my 04 for too much-it's their opinion-i wouldn't care.
There has been countless NSX's for sale on this board and i have never said that a particular NSX is overpriced.I never even said that Barry's was overpriced,i simply said that i wouldn't pay it.
It's all moot now anyway because i'm guessing Rocco1 has already bought it,so my "opinion" didn't harm the resale value at all.

[Sudesh]

Come on guys, where is the love?? such a small community and we should be showing more love.

As Tony would say, "Like a camera, we should use negatives to develop":)

[AR]

There has been countless NSX's for sale on this board and i have never said that a particular NSX is overpriced.

I know what you mean Ivor but dont forget that the asking price is not always the selling price depending on how cheap or how dear one thinks it is it could be more or it can be less.

All in all NSX are more money now than last year IMHO.

[jaytip]

I know what you mean Ivor but dont forget that the asking price is not always the selling price.
Ary i totaly agree with you.I came down a grand on the asking price for mine.