Advice Please

[jaytip]

As many of you know i am selling my car,and in readiness for the sale i am getting it serviced.I dropped my car off to Honda in Cardiff today for the 72K service and have the timing belt changed.
I asked for an estimate of how much it would cost and i was told 2K:eek: Surely it should be less than that???? Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Secondly,my asking price.I have it advertised on here for 20K but i'm thinking of deleting that add and putting it up for 21K on auto trader to try and get some of the servicing cost back.Is 21K a fair price to ask? The car will need nothing doing to it and what i will really be getting back in my pocket is 19K.Again any and all advice is appreciated on this.

Cheers,
Ivor.

[simonprelude]

I think £21k is a good price for your car, I would be tempted to advertise a little higher.
If you look around then the other cars for sale would possibly even indicate that £24k wouldn't be a completely OTT price.

The targa roof may put a few people off, also it is not an ideal time to be selling such a car.
But then, are you looking for a quick sale or will it wait until Spring ??
Possibly go for £22k even £23k and be prepared to accept less.

[Martin]

Hi Ivor

I think 24k is a more "on the money" asking price.

Potential NSX owners have not much choice when it comes to 2nd-hand UK RHD manual NSXs under 30k.

Martin

[NSXGB]

Ivor, I was quoted £500 labour for the 60k service, which would have been done by an NSX tech.


I think you should market your car at around the £22-23k and see what happens, there is a lack of good cars in AT at the moment.

[Senninha]

Hi Ivor,

Nortons quoted me around £600 for the belt change. Is the rest of the 72k a major or minor service. £2k sounds a LOT of money.

On the other hand £23k for your car does not sound like a lot of money. Serviced, wheels refurbed so just about ready to go. Might be worth a couple of hundred ££ to have her machine polished to really put the icing on the cake for the next lucky owner.

HTH

Regards, Paul

[kevinpsw]

£2k sounds a lot to me also. Not exactly the same thing but mine went to Bristol Honda a couple of years ago (previous owner) and for £3.2k it had 60k service + cambelt + clutch + £1000 worth of power steering parts.

My next service will be due at 72k but less cambelt obviously. I hope I'll be looking at much, much less than £2k!

[Paul G]

Hi Ivor,

My car is due a 72k service and cambelt change so after seeing your post I decided to make a few calls, result as follow:

cambelt service £475 all in parts, labour and VAT...Not bad I thought.
72K service £750.00 all in! thought that was a bit strong! giving a total of the best part of 1200 quid!

I also tried another dealer and got quote £825.00 all in! however after disussion what I get for my money it became clear that on the service side of things they were only quoting for oil and filter and a safety check!

I think I'll go back to the first dealer and see if I can get it any cheaper!

Hope this helps

Cheers

PG

[Minch]

Hi Paul,

Who quoted you the £1,200 price? Mine will need doing soon so I too am looking for a good quote.

Cheers
Nathan

[jaytip]

Thanks for all your replies guys.

I pick my car up on monday or tuesday and if i am indeed presented with a bill approaching 2K i am going to ask to see the service manager and show him this thread.

Paul if you don't mind me asking,who quoted you the £1200?

Cheers,

Ivor.

[cas]

Hi,

Had mine done 3 months ago. The problem is what do you want? Basic cam belt change £900 1000 at a Honda dealer( remember they charge £90 - 110 per hour). Proper cam belt change as per NSXprime - shed loads! The proper change means replacing all belts, valve seals, plugs, water pump and lower timing case cover for all pre-97 cars. However, you are quite likely to billed 2.5K and still not have all the parts replaced. Make sure you see all the old parts that have been replaced. Which one to have? If you are going to keep it for ever then do the whole lot. Anything else is a compromise.

[jaytip]

Hi,

Had mine done 3 months ago. The problem is what do you want? Basic cam belt change £900 1000 at a Honda dealer( remember they charge £90 - 110 per hour). Proper cam belt change as per NSXprime - shed loads! The proper change means replacing all belts, valve seals, plugs, water pump and lower timing case cover for all pre-97 cars. However, you are quite likely to billed 2.5K and still not have all the parts replaced. Make sure you see all the old parts that have been replaced. Which one to have? If you are going to keep it for ever then do the whole lot. Anything else is a compromise.
I changed the cam belt on my last NSX as well although i had that done at Two Mills(who are an NSX franchise) in north Wales and when i said i wanted to change the pump at the same time the first question was "WHY".At the time i had my service done with them(about 3 years ago) they said they had never had a water pump failure on an NSX.
It is only done at the same time as a preventative measure.There is nothing in the service manuals that says the water pump HAS to be changed when changing the cam belt.
Where is the figure of £900-£1000 coming from?? Other members on here have had their cars done at Honda Dealerships and paid far less than that.
The car is going up for sale and i simply want to make sure that it is tip-top for the next owner.It just hurts to think that i am going to be stung for 2K for my goodwill gesture,when i and others on here think it should be somewhat less.

[Paul G]

Hi Nathan, Ivor,

£1200.00 Was from Alan Day in Portsmouth, very helpful, did explain all aspects of the service and what you get for £750.00 e.g checking valve clearance etc,etc!

£825.00 was Yeomans, they have service my car for the last 5 years with no problems, I did ask them to check about details around the last time my car had a set of plugs etc, so maybe they felt they where not required this time, hence why only a small service? like you say, in some respects you get what you pay for.

I did try to get the £1200.00 quote down some more, was told that it was heavily discounted so they would not be able to come down on that price. I was offered a courtesy car for the whole week due to not being able to get to the dealership during working hours, nice touch, not a real bonus if the car turns out to be a Automatic Jazz!

Nathan,

Yeomans did the cam belt on your car only a couple of years ago so hopefully not required yet? If you call Yeomans in Littlehampton the aftersales managers name is Gordon, he's very helpfull and will probably still remember the car.

Hope this helps, sound like your still enjoying the NSX Nathan.

Cheers

PG

[Papalazarou]

I'm really not sure where these quotes are coming from.

Cambelt change should cost you just over £400.00. If you want the ater pump done, perhaps advisable on a car nearly 60K miles + then buy the water pump from the states, it will cost you £125.00 (UK dealer £395.00) and another 45 minutes labour on top of the cambelt.
The total cost of this work should cost you no more than £600.00, not a penny more!

I had mine done at Howards Honda in Taunton, but the dealer at Cribbs Causeway near Bristol should be able to offer the same deal.

The reason people change the water pump is because when you've changed the cambelt there may be a bit more stress on the water pump from the new belt. However, I had mine done at around 55K and the water pump that came out was perfect. Probably something to do with a quality part and very good coolant.

I guess it's up to you whether ytou wish to pay another £200.00 including labout to get the water pump done.

As for pump failure, I can think someone who cooked an engines their pump gave out.


Cheers,

James.

[cas]

Hi

Honda Coventry: cam belt £303 + six hours labour ( £600) = £900 its easy if you know how! According to Honda. As for water pump replacement - the service schedule in the service manual states that cam belt must be replaced at 60k and the water pump inspected. But that assumes that the belt is not over 7 years old. So if a car is 12 years old and the belt and water pump are original then its living on borrowed time.

I should also like to point out that the average car is expected to be dead and buried after 14 years. Honda claim that the body of the NSX will last 30 years - I would not expect all the bits inside to last that long.

The original 1991 NSX is 15 years old and will qualifiy for a classic car policy owners of these vehicles should appreiciate that they are going to encounter the most of the problems that face classic car owners.

I really like my NSX and intend to keep for years so I gave it the works! Also you can't skip if your going to thrash it!

[kowalski]

My waterpump seized causing a catastrophic engine failure a few years back! cost over £5k after big discounts from Honda for the engine rebuild so worth an extra £200 to prevent a bigger bill.

leigh

[Papalazarou]

Hi

Honda Coventry: cam belt £303 + six hours labour ( £600) = £900 its easy if you know how! According to Honda.


Ok, I'm confused, are you talking about a complete service with tappets, oil change poss. coolant change etc or are you just talking about changing the cambelt? If it's just the cambelt I was charged under £400.00 for mine but I also got a quote from a dealer in Bristol for £411.00.

Cheers,


James.

P.s, just curious, but somewhere on this thread I saw plugs included on a 72K service. According to the manual that's a 60K requirement.

[cas]

Hi,

What I am saying is that their is enormous variation in pricing for the same work. I suspect that some Honda dealers nolonger want to service the car and quote high prices to put customers off. I had the whole lot done waterpump etc becuase I am keeping the car for a long time

[Papalazarou]

Hi,

What I am saying is that their is enormous variation in pricing for the same work. I suspect that some Honda dealers nolonger want to service the car and quote high prices to put customers off. I had the whole lot done waterpump etc becuase I am keeping the car for a long time


I totally agree, there is a massive variation. In fact I have an ongoing dispute with Honda at the moment. Will tell more when I can.

Cheers,

James.

[mcibuk]

A 72K service is a major service including replacement engine coolant, transmission fluid,brakefluid etc... The cambelt change alone is a days work.
I'm having an 84k service plus cambelt and ABS/brake fluid change done at 2-Mills Honda next month for £893 all incl.
The 84k service is an intermediate type service.

[Papalazarou]

The cambelt service on its own is around the 4 hour mark.

Cheers,

James.

[al nsx]

hi guys finally on line my name is alan davis (al nsx) i work for thames honda used to be trident and guy salmon 14 yrs nsx exp plus 20 yrs on honda just done cambelt and 72k on a nsx i think the bill was around 900 approx i have probably changed around 40 plus cam belts only ever one water pump i still check them though and tensioner for wear any way if anyone needs help please leave message on the forums and i will try to help regards al nsx

[AR]

hi guys finally on line my name is alan davis (al nsx) i work for thames honda used to be trident and guy salmon 14 yrs nsx exp plus 20 yrs on honda just done cambelt and 72k on a nsx i think the bill was around 900 approx i have probably changed around 40 plus cam belts only ever one water pump i still check them though and tensioner for wear any way if anyone needs help please leave message on the forums and i will try to help regards al nsx

Welcome on board and thanks for the reassuring words with regards to the water pumps.

Cheers,

AR

[jaytip]

Picked the car up today.Final price was going to be £1825 but after a quick chat to the service manager he brought it down to £1625 for me.Still not particularly cheap i know but at least it's all sorted now.
The interesting thing was i spoke the the NSX technician and he told me that the timing was out on the car.I don't know all the technical jargon and specifics but he basically said that the cams were not lined up :shock: He said that it may have jumped a tooth due to the car being over-reved but he thinks that it was just fitted wrong in the first place.I don't know if he is correct or not but he also said that the car should pull stronger, now that the timing is correct,which would be nice:D

[mart155]

I asked my local Honda dealer in Dunstable for a few quotes before I started seriously started looking for an NSX.

They quoted me as follows:
Cam belt change £475
Major service £350
Interim service £200

Don't ask me for specifics, I was only interested in a basic idea of cost before buying.