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NSX 2000
12-01-2015, 05:58 PM
Just watched the live launch and I'm very pleased with 550+ HP

can someone post the link to the www.acuranews.com website, as I can't seem to copy and paste the link?

britlude
12-01-2015, 06:22 PM
this one???
http://www.acuranews.com/releases/rebirth-of-an-icon-next-generation-acura-nsx-unveiled

a couple of pics from Meeyatch1 on prime (which appears to have crashed!!!)
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k196/Meeyatch1/NSX%20Press%20Day%201-12-15/F0A90FD5-60F2-4DFB-98DC-A74C36C26C14_zpse4mofqvp.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k196/Meeyatch1/NSX%20Press%20Day%201-12-15/23A858F3-4E49-460F-9CD3-BE902D45E6F6_zps2xvlgw1g.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k196/Meeyatch1/NSX%20Press%20Day%201-12-15/6194C40C-2952-46EA-985E-FF3FDA0F9D9B_zpsoyoxl7zx.jpg

an maybe the oddest bit, the 'engine bay'
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k196/Meeyatch1/NSX%20Press%20Day%201-12-15/CB3CFCFF-A7AB-44F5-BEBF-4C3542C4763A_zpsuu9rcsas.jpg

relive the launch here.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dup2vCGey4

nobby
12-01-2015, 06:27 PM
video of launch here

http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/detroit-auto-show/2015/01/12/acura-nsx-supercar/21603799/

Pride
12-01-2015, 06:30 PM
Its great to see that Acura decided to use the fastest seat colour combination available, red/black, very sexy!

goldtop
12-01-2015, 06:33 PM
http://hondanews.com/e_photos/5bdfc91d-b0b7-4e7a-ac88-20d7b66e68e8.guest-embed

All naked.

nobby
12-01-2015, 06:42 PM
minimum 100k in the US ($150k) for this car ... so who knows how HUK pitch it ... they will get it wrong as usual and kill it before it starts

darock
12-01-2015, 06:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dup2vCGey4

Here ist the video of the unveil.

Bernhard

AR
15-01-2015, 07:19 PM
Many styling cues from the C7 corvette and looks muscular in a "camaro" kind of way.

soddy
15-01-2015, 09:06 PM
i have to say i really like the production model. i prefer the interior to the prototype, air vents on the prototype looked strange to me.
well done to the designer, she did a great job. :)

Pride
16-01-2015, 05:25 PM
More good angle shots.

https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/news/honda-nsx-detroit

soddy
16-01-2015, 08:50 PM
More good angle shots.

https://grrc.goodwood.com/road/news/honda-nsx-detroit

great photos looks fantastic. i am smitten lol. some lucky people are going to be really happy :)
honda did a fantastic job. what colours are available? love that interior, the red and black reminds me of the rx8 interior colour combo.

TheSebringOne
16-01-2015, 10:37 PM
The more pictures I see, the more I like it.

Pride
14-02-2015, 08:46 AM
The more pictures I see, the more I like it.

Then how about this

Check out pic on comment #11

http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/showthread.php/151631-Some-more-pop-up-headlight-love-for-NSX

Comments please.

goldtop
14-02-2015, 10:30 AM
No, no and no. The reason the original NSX works with pop-ups is that they were designed in from the start, and the shape and contour of the front of the car made appropriately.

The new NSX shape does not suit them. That photo comes from a whole page of modern cars Photoshopped with pop-ups and not one of them was good looking. See here: http://www.carthrottle.com/post/10-modern-sports-cars-made-insanely-cool-with-popup-headlights/

Silver Surfer
13-07-2015, 11:11 PM
http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125764&d=1436828312

http://www.nsxprime.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125763&d=1436828281


SS

Hagasan
13-07-2015, 11:50 PM
Loving the Honda marketing strategy of showcasing the new model at the local Maccy D's car park car meets.. Getting down wif da Bros.. OK it's a Subways but you get the idea... Coming soon to your local Asda..

NZNick
14-07-2015, 12:41 AM
looks like the red paint has faded already - it really is trying to compete with Audi!

Pride
14-07-2015, 12:27 PM
Tell you what, when it's parked next to the original it looks even more like an elephant, I wonder if they do it in white.:)
I can now officially call it the elephant in the VROOM!!!:D
Sorry, but I just couldn't resist.;)

Nick Graves
14-07-2015, 04:36 PM
Nellie the SX is quite a timeless design, I think. Time will tell.

But you've got to like 'em big...

Problem Child
14-07-2015, 08:00 PM
No, no and no. The reason the original NSX works with pop-ups is that they were designed in from the start, and the shape and contour of the front of the car made appropriately.

The new NSX shape does not suit them. That photo comes from a whole page of modern cars Photoshopped with pop-ups and not one of them was good looking. See here: http://www.carthrottle.com/post/10-modern-sports-cars-made-insanely-cool-with-popup-headlights/

The NSX looks like it should be in Thomas the Tank Engine

Senninha
14-07-2015, 10:00 PM
Good to see it out in the real world and unsurprisingly, it makes our NSX look small and low, but then thats always the case.

Any more info on this 'mini meet'?

Shawnsx5
15-07-2015, 08:18 AM
Have been trying to keep open minded as the various images have been released but the image of the original next to the new leaves me much preferring the original, I hope when I see a real production model in the metal I will like it more.

goldtop
15-07-2015, 03:51 PM
I dunno, you wait 10 years for a new NSX to come along and then two come along at once:

https://i.imgur.com/K1e2FDy.jpg

L696ULO
15-07-2015, 05:00 PM
Nice to see they are producing the fastest colour first - red with black roof!

Mistercorn
15-07-2015, 07:15 PM
I hope it will be a fantastic car, but I don't like the styling, it looks like somebody squeezed it too hard and bits popped out in all the wrong places.

MC

nobby
16-07-2015, 11:40 AM
its nice to see in flesh and had the opportunity to have a sit in it @ Geneva
pity i have no hope in affording one!
looks like this will be a purchase similar to the way I got my 1st/current NSX ... wait years!

soddy
16-07-2015, 06:34 PM
its nice to see in flesh and had the opportunity to have a sit in it @ Geneva
pity i have no hope in affording one!
looks like this will be a purchase similar to the way I got my 1st/current NSX ... wait years!

it'll be nice to see from your room in the nursing home lol ;)

never know though, it does look good. i doubt too many na1 and na2 cars will be sold to get one so enjoy yours in the mean time.

Pride
17-07-2015, 06:43 PM
It's starting to do the rounds now to get "real world observation analysis" of how it performs on the road.
Should be interesting.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/07/2016-acura-nsx-caught-on-video-in-the-wild.html

http://m.gtspirit.com/2015/07/17/2016-acura-nsx-takes-tour-across-the-us/

Pride
05-08-2015, 01:47 PM
Latest spotted news: BORING I know but here it is.


At this point, the new Acura NSX seems like old news–and it hasn’t even reached production yet.
But after years–yes, years–of teasing, Acura finally revealed the near-production ready version of the NSX at the Detroit Auto Show earlier this year. In what could be the slowest roll-out ever, spy photographers seem to have caught the full-production model running about in public. Yes, spy photographers catching the Acura NSX in the wild on public roads is still a topic of news discussion.

http://www.egmcartech.com/2015/08/04/spy-shots-the-production-2016-acura-nsx-gets-spotted-in-the-wild/

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/08/2016-acura-nsx-spied-testing-in-the-wild-in-production-ready-red.html

NZNick
14-08-2015, 05:47 AM
Looks good in blue

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMVqBWvUcAIKLSB.jpg:large</a> (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMVqBWvUcAIKLSB.jpg:large)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMVqBWvUcAIKLSB.jpg:large

soddy
22-08-2015, 03:42 PM
looks really good in blue, my favourite colour :)

Dragonlady
23-08-2015, 09:12 AM
Yes, does look very nice in blue, much better than red.
But, with all those vents and areo gubins, where does the front number plate go? It will just spoil the front like our cars, they design these cars and forget about the simple things, it's such a shame we still have to have a front facing plate, especially now with all this modern tech about.

Pride
23-08-2015, 01:56 PM
Yes, does look very nice in blue, much better than red.
But, with all those vents and areo gubins, where does the front number plate go? It will just spoil the front like our cars, they design these cars and forget about the simple things, it's such a shame we still have to have a front facing plate, especially now with all this modern tech about.

Come on Ian you must know the Yanks don't worry about our British problem.
Best thing to do in my opinion is not to have one at all, after all 2 years now without a front number plate for me proves the police don't really care. Just refit it for an MOT, and that will be either 3 or shortly to come 4 years.
And as for the blue, well that just slows it down a bit.:)

Senninha
23-08-2015, 10:05 PM
Its not a british problem as many US states now require front plates to be presented ...

Having now seen black and white variants the fortunate first few will have a job choosing ... I hope they come with the latest honeycombe style alloys as these look good and would woek well in a number of finishes

http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/1508-2017-acura-nsx-production-delayed-until-spring-2016/

http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/tokyo-2013-honda-nsx-concept-in-white-live-photos_1-11.jpg

http://a38898d4011a160a051fb191.gearheads.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2017-Acura-NSX-Type-R-front-view.jpg?e1be4f

Senninha
24-08-2015, 09:49 PM
She lives and breathes and has optional rear lip spolier too ...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P_TwC48noYg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P_TwC48noYg)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZ-TWa7SxE

exiges1
25-08-2015, 11:09 AM
Image by image, video by video it grows on me. Some cars (for me) have an immediate 'wow' factor, such as pics I saw today of the new 488 spider. Little details on the NSX keep revealing themselves like the airflow gap between the rear buttress and the engine cover and the 'alien' look the engine dressing parts have through the glass cover, it also looks like it's full of pent up energy on the move. Be great to see one on our roads.

Pride
05-09-2015, 07:02 PM
According to this new publication the "ugly duckling" nsx front grille will be appearing on new saloons across the range soon.

http://www.carscoops.com/2015/09/acuras-new-boss-wants-exciting-sedans.html

drmikey
03-10-2015, 08:58 PM
I have pics of the final, final final production version.

But I darent upset the Honda gods lol

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/drmikey/12043067_10206379808231252_2682162825296555103_n_z psw1ypvidl.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/drmikey/12115513_10206379808551260_338333043936519749_n_zp syetyjgyg.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/drmikey/media/12043067_10206379808231252_2682162825296555103_n_z psw1ypvidl.jpg.html)
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d180/drmikey/12122462_10206379808351255_2738134404303182959_n_z pstdxuahms.jpg (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/drmikey/media/12122462_10206379808351255_2738134404303182959_n_z pstdxuahms.jpg.html)

havoc
06-10-2015, 04:09 PM
I am impressed with Honda Japan...they seem far more engaged with the Owners Club than HUK are with us...

(Does it look much different to the prototypes? And have they decided how much power is enough???)

goldnsx
06-10-2015, 04:56 PM
I wonder how many photos we see of the exhibit or people 'egocentric' enough to spread the photos on the web disrespectig the request by Honda stated above. :)

drmikey
06-10-2015, 09:01 PM
I think our group were honoured to be able to have this opportunity and I dont think anyone has disrespected Honda's request

Oh yes martin, Honda Japan are awesome - dinners, speeches, Uerhara San, Gan San, Ito San all here, merchandise (just for our trip), private factory visits, private chats with Ted Klaus, S660 skid pan experience. Its just out of this world.

And then there is Honda UK.....

Pride
07-10-2015, 09:24 PM
An interesting latest opinion:

Ed Speak

by NICK TROTT. EVO MAG


For a car that offers LaFerrari levels of tech for less than a quarter of the price, the new Honda NSX faded into the background at the recent Frankfurt motor show. Familiarity didn’t help (I think this is the sixth time we’ve seen the car at a show), but neither did the surprise appearance of the Honda Project 2&4 concept.The 2&4 (visit evo.co.uk for images) doesn’t just evoke the spirit of Soichiro Honda, it reincarnates him in mechanical form. Powered by a jewel-like MotoGP engine (a 999cc, 212bhp V4) and soaked in delicious engineering, it threw an invisibility cloak over the NSX – a car that couldn’t be more diametrically opposed. The 2&4 was my Frankfurt ‘Best in Show’.The NSX has been delayed by six months. According to Honda, the delay has been caused by a change in engine format during the development phase. Originally designed with a transverse naturally aspirated V6, it will now have a longitudinal twin-turbo hybrid V6.
‘Alarm bells must really be ringing back in the US, where the car will be built’
It’s a solid reason, but it makes me nervous. The car should be well into its final durability testing by now, with engineering sign-off and dynamic setup complete. Six months more buys a considerable number of durability miles, the desire for which is understandable because Honda cannot undermine its reputation for reliability with a flaky supercar. But if those months are being used to further calibrate and refine that immensely complex drivetrain (nine-speed DCT, torque vectoring, hybrid, four-wheel drive), alarm bells must really be ringing back in the US, where the car has been engineered and where it will be built.The NSX also has, to my eyes at least, a rather uncomfortable aesthetic. It doesn’t have the drama of a Huracán, the surfacing of an R8, the muscle of an AMG GT or the grace of a 911. The slash-cut wedges that dominate conspire to bounce your eye from one surface to another. And I know this is going to annoy some of our friends on the other side of the pond, but the design feels too Americanised, neither cleverly interpreting Japanese design signatures (like Mazda has successfully achieved in recent years) nor moving the look of the genre on.But what I’m most concerned about is the way the NSX will drive. It could be a mini-918 Spyder, blending high-tech with excitement, feedback and pure driving thrills. Technology, appropriately deployed, is no longer an impediment to this. But it could also be a Mitsubishi GTO, and for a company that has just impaled the concept of the Thrill of Driving with the 2&4, that simply won’t be good enough.
Nick is the editor of evo @evoNickTrott

Nick Graves
12-10-2015, 06:51 PM
It's not a Porsche, so in Evo's eyes it will be utter shyte anyway...

havoc
12-10-2015, 08:48 PM
I think our group were honoured to be able to have this opportunity and I dont think anyone has disrespected Honda's request

Oh yes martin, Honda Japan are awesome - dinners, speeches, Uerhara San, Gan San, Ito San all here, merchandise (just for our trip), private factory visits, private chats with Ted Klaus, S660 skid pan experience. Its just out of this world.

And then there is Honda UK.....

You're making me wish I'd gone...have been increasingly jealous of you guys as I've seen everything go up on FB...


Nick's evo editorial...he makes some very valid points IMHO - the car isn't bad-looking, but that's a crowded marketplace and 'not bad looking' isn't going to cut it, not with a below-average badge - it does look rather USDM to me too... And they really ARE dragging the launch out - even I'm bored silly of it! As long as it shows the competition up in the same way the NA1 did at launch, then all will be forgiven. If it doesn't...

goldtop
14-10-2015, 09:51 AM
Not a photo, but...

http://i.imgur.com/NR4cz87.jpg

And: "the NSX's 3.5-liter twin-turbocharged V-6 engine with dry sump is hand assembled by master builders at the nearby Anna, Ohio engine plant. Each engine takes over six hours to complete and is machine balanced. Each NSX power unit — engine, 9-speed dual clutch transmission with direct-drive electric motor, and front Twin Motor Unit – is bench-tested and broken-in (the engine to the equivalent of 150 driving miles) to ensure that every NSX is track-ready upon customer delivery. The engine build process was benchmarked against some of the company's race engine programs to ensure the highest possible quality and performance standards were achieved."

From: http://www.acura.com/PressReleaseArticle.aspx?year=2015&id=8618-en#~pr53vtDP29QJKS

Pride
14-10-2015, 10:19 AM
INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR OPTIONS.

On display at The Quail, A Motorsports Gathering was a trio of all-new NSX models, two of which were shown for the first time. As the first build-to-order vehicle for Acura, the all-new NSX will feature an extensive array of factory-installed options.



Exterior Features and Options*


Exterior Color
Valencia Red Pearl
Nouvelle Blue Pearl
Berlina Black


Interior Color
Red
Orchid
Saddle


Exterior Package
n/a
Carbon Exterior Package: carbon fiber front spoiler, side sills, rear diffuser and exhaust finisher
Carbon Exterior Package: carbon fiber front spoiler, side sills, rear diffuser and exhaust finisher


Engine Cover
n/a
NSX Carbon Engine Cover: carbon fiber front, side and rear engine covers
NSX Carbon Engine Cover: carbon fiber front, side and rear engine covers


Roof
n/a
Carbon Roof
Carbon Roof


Brakes
Black Brake Calipers with Ceramic Rotors
Silver Brake Calipers with Ceramic Rotors
Black Brake Calipers with Ceramic Rotors


Wheels
NSX Signature Y-Spoke Wheels
NSX Exclusive Interwoven Wheels
NSX Signature Y-Spoke Wheels


Rear Spoiler
Body-Colored Rear Decklid
Body-Colored Rear Decklid
Body-Colored Rear Decklid





Interior Features and Options*


Interior Package
n/a
Interior Carbon Sports Package: carbon fiber meter visor, steering garnish, aluminum foot rest and sport pedals
Interior Carbon Sports Package: carbon fiber meter visor, steering garnish, aluminum foot rest and sport pedals


Seats
Leather and Alcantara Power Sports Seats
Leather and Alcantara Power Sports Seats
Leather and Alcantara Power Sports Seats


Headliner
Black Alcantara Headliner
Black Alcantara Headliner
Black Alcantara Headliner


Technology Package
ELS Studio Audio and Technology Package: 9-speaker ELS Studio® Premium Audio, Acura Navigation System, SiriusXM® Satellite Radio and AcuraLink®, front and rear parking sensors
ELS Studio Audio and Technology Package: 9-speaker ELS Studio® Premium Audio, Acura Navigation System, SiriusXM® Satellite Radio and AcuraLink®, front and rear parking sensors

AR
14-10-2015, 08:26 PM
I said it before, C7 and Camaro all over this design, not a bad thing as times have oved obe, but how is it a Honda?...Well it is not, it is an Acure. the HSV 10 would have been the one.

NSX 2000
16-10-2015, 03:13 PM
Some very good photos of the new NSX

http://photography.robertondrovic.com/Cars/NSXPO-2015/


(http://photography.robertondrovic.com/Cars/NSXPO-2015/i-73LRqpb/A)

Pride
16-10-2015, 05:30 PM
Fantastic meeting of old and new.
I still much prefer the old classic shape and with no front number plate on 99% of them they look even better:)

Pride
02-11-2015, 05:52 PM
Ted Klaus confirms future Type R Nsx and the chassis is good for a "lot more".

In that case as well as the usual lightening and stiffing of the type R mods I hope they also offer an increase in power to push even the worlds fastest hyper-car performance figures, sub 2.5sec 0-60 and 200mph plus???

Now that really would be special.:)

http://www.caradvice.com.au/393169/honda-nsx-family-tipped-to-include-type-r-convertible-variants/

http://carbuzz.com/news/2015/11/2/Acura-Has-Some-Awesome-Plans-For-The-New-NSX-7730134/

Senninha
02-11-2015, 07:58 PM
the second article made me smile when I got to the photos of the NSX-R ... the cars pictured are replicas, one from Miami (note the LHD/gold calipers), the other is also a rep (LHD / red calipers)

Good to know stuff is planned ... Ive said before that Honda should mimic the R8 programme but in lower volume to preserve the values

Pride
29-12-2015, 10:07 PM
A quick pictorial update on the new NSX, it made me smile anyway.:)

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Problem Child
06-01-2016, 10:47 PM
this one???
http://www.acuranews.com/releases/rebirth-of-an-icon-next-generation-acura-nsx-unveiled

a couple of pics from Meeyatch1 on prime (which appears to have crashed!!!)
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k196/Meeyatch1/NSX%20Press%20Day%201-12-15/F0A90FD5-60F2-4DFB-98DC-A74C36C26C14_zpse4mofqvp.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k196/Meeyatch1/NSX%20Press%20Day%201-12-15/23A858F3-4E49-460F-9CD3-BE902D45E6F6_zps2xvlgw1g.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k196/Meeyatch1/NSX%20Press%20Day%201-12-15/6194C40C-2952-46EA-985E-FF3FDA0F9D9B_zpsoyoxl7zx.jpg

an maybe the oddest bit, the 'engine bay'
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k196/Meeyatch1/NSX%20Press%20Day%201-12-15/CB3CFCFF-A7AB-44F5-BEBF-4C3542C4763A_zpsuu9rcsas.jpg

relive the launch here.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dup2vCGey4

I wonder why they chose red for all their publicity shots? Hmmmmm?

Dragonlady
07-01-2016, 10:38 AM
Because red is the slowest colour and that gave them plenty of time to set up their camera equipment and get the shot required before it slowly left the building!

Senninha
07-01-2016, 11:20 AM
Can anyone shed any light on the 'odd' number of tail pipes. Ferrari presented 3 on the 458 .. on a V8?? Now Honda present 4 on a V6??

nobby
07-01-2016, 05:17 PM
the new CTR has 4, so surely it could not be out-done by it! :)

not a very good explanation i know ...

britlude
07-01-2016, 05:26 PM
Can anyone shed any light on the 'odd' number of tail pipes. Ferrari presented 3 on the 458 .. on a V8?? Now Honda present 4 on a V6??

with the 458, all the exhaust goes out the centre pipe (really 2 half pipes) while revs are low/quiet mode. the outer 2 pipes, bypassing part of the silencer box, only coming into play once the car tells 2 butterfly valves to open....

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTE5NFgxNjAw/z/kbIAAOSwDk5UI~BZ/$_57.JPG

the NSX has 4 because they can! it's looks much the same sort of system, but the quiet mode pipes are not siamesed as in the 458, the loud pipes in the middle, the quiet ones outside!

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/156283943+w1000+h667+q80+re0/2017-acura-nsx-intake-sound-control-and-active-exhaust-valves.jpg

Pride
17-02-2016, 09:11 PM
Type R ??? :):D

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Senninha
17-02-2016, 11:43 PM
Thanx Jonathan, appreciate the explanation and photos ....

So whilst we're at it, I have another question ... I visited VGE cars a while back and as I often do, I took time to compare the various brake options on display.
When looking at the OSF I consider the NSX deployment to be 'standard' by which I mean the front calipers are at the front of the disc, i.e. 3 o'clock ... So why do other manufacturers raise, reverse or lower the position, for example the Maclaren are on the back and 7.30, 458's at 9pm and HUGE, the F-type up at 11pm. Is it simply a case of packaging, or are there performance advantages to the alternative placement for the calipers?

rgds, Paul

Pride
18-02-2016, 08:19 AM
Thanx Jonathan, appreciate the explanation and photos ....

So whilst we're at it, I have another question ... I visited VGE cars a while back and as I often do, I took time to compare the various brake options on display.
When looking at the OSF I consider the NSX deployment to be 'standard' by which I mean the front calipers are at the front of the disc, i.e. 3 o'clock ... So why do other manufacturers raise, reverse or lower the position, for example the Maclaren are on the back and 7.30, 458's at 9pm and HUGE, the F-type up at 11pm. Is it simply a case of packaging, or are there performance advantages to the alternative placement for the calipers?

rgds, Paul

Interesting Paul.
Caliper positioning is simplistically summed up in this YouTube video I found but what is interesting though is that our original NSX's front calipers where mounted toward the front of the car which tends to suggest brake cooling wasn't such a big issue on our relatively "light" and relatively "low" performance sports car which also nicely confirms the YouTube video conclusions.

Brake cooling is definitely a major design consideration though on the far more powerful and much heavier NSX2 as caliper positioning for cooling as well as weight distribution (toward the centre of the car) as they are far more critical than just symmetrical aesthetics.

http://youtu.be/HEIk0hJ7eGk

What do you think???

britlude
18-02-2016, 10:51 PM
sounds like student tosh to me!

i've conducted a small poll of the cars on the drive and their front calipers... Nsx front mounted, Avantime front mounted, Jensen interceptor rear mounted, hotrod (vauhall viva based suspension) rear mounted...

it all depends on where the rack is! if the rack is behind the axle, the calipers go at the front, and vice versa!!! the caliper is where the steering arm isn't!

it follows with the rear of the NSX, the caliper is at the front of the wheel because the toe control arm is at the rear.. simples really, it all depends where the designers decided to put the steering control!

with his hellcat analogy, the calipers more than likely moved because there's an enormous engine that has been shoe-horned into the bay, and i suspect the rack was causing clearance issues... (base model is a V6, the hellcat has the longer V8)

brake cooling is just ducting to the centre area of the disc vents, so goes to pretty much the same place be it in front or behind the axle and is a flexible link anyway usually. it's the hard stuff that dictates the positioning!

the only time it's got anything close to exotic is in F1 where the caliper has been used at the bottom in an attempt to get the c of g lower.... but then again they do have a strange suspension layout

Pride
19-02-2016, 01:28 PM
sounds like student tosh to me!

i've conducted a small poll of the cars on the drive and their front calipers... Nsx front mounted, Avantime front mounted, Jensen interceptor rear mounted, hotrod (vauhall viva based suspension) rear mounted...

it all depends on where the rack is! if the rack is behind the axle, the calipers go at the front, and vice versa!!! the caliper is where the steering arm isn't!

I'm sure there's more to it than just hardware linkage positioning on the NSX2 though Jonathan.

For example, I've also just conducted a poll of supercars that are not on my drive :D such as Ferrari, Lamborghini, Pagani, Maclaren and even R8 among other exotic supercars, where, I'm sure forced frontal air ducting for the brakes have made the manufacturer place the calliper to the rear of the front disc for that reason alone.

Agreed, on "run of the mill" sports cars/cars positioning of the calliper is not so crucial in the design as suspension and steering linkage positioning. But forced airflow from the frontal area of the NSX2 and others is I'm sure vital when driven on the limit.

Nick Graves
19-02-2016, 05:02 PM
sounds like student tosh to me!

i've conducted a small poll of the cars on the drive and their front calipers... Nsx front mounted, Avantime front mounted, Jensen interceptor rear mounted, hotrod (vauhall viva based suspension) rear mounted...

it all depends on where the rack is! if the rack is behind the axle, the calipers go at the front, and vice versa!!! the caliper is where the steering arm isn't!

it follows with the rear of the NSX, the caliper is at the front of the wheel because the toe control arm is at the rear.. simples really, it all depends where the designers decided to put the steering control!

with his hellcat analogy, the calipers more than likely moved because there's an enormous engine that has been shoe-horned into the bay, and i suspect the rack was causing clearance issues... (base model is a V6, the hellcat has the longer V8)

brake cooling is just ducting to the centre area of the disc vents, so goes to pretty much the same place be it in front or behind the axle and is a flexible link anyway usually. it's the hard stuff that dictates the positioning!

the only time it's got anything close to exotic is in F1 where the caliper has been used at the bottom in an attempt to get the c of g lower.... but then again they do have a strange suspension layout

I used to think that too, but with double-pivot lower suspension, it ain't necessarily so!

Here's an F-Type to except your rule:

http://assets.passionperformance.ca/photos/1/6/2/162152_Jaguar_F-Type.jpg

Just depends how they choose to stuff ALL the bits in...

lotusolly
19-02-2016, 05:05 PM
Got to agree with Jonathon here, must be just a matter of where it fits.

If the calipers were being repositioned for cooling then surely you would want them at the front of the disc where they would pick up cold air, not at the back where the air has already passed the heat source of the disc

Olly

Nick Graves
19-02-2016, 05:10 PM
Having said that, with the NC1, it would actually seem to be the ARB which would most conflict with a forward caliper location, as much as the caster control links:

http://myautoworld.com/autonews/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2017-Acura-NSX-074-Suspension-with-Brakes-and-Front-TMU.jpg

nobby
19-02-2016, 07:18 PM
interesting review of the car here ... not sure if posted already


https://youtu.be/GUDLUSqfqxg

havoc
19-02-2016, 07:44 PM
Got to agree with Jonathon here, must be just a matter of where it fits.

If the calipers were being repositioned for cooling then surely you would want them at the front of the disc where they would pick up cold air, not at the back where the air has already passed the heat source of the disc

Olly

I may be missing something but I thought the main purpose of cooling was discs (being the biggest heat-sink in the braking system) not calipers/pads - cooling is to prevent disc-warp and fluid-overheat, so by cooling the discs (easier than the hidden fluid), you also cool pads (less heat-transfer) and by inference cool fluid (again, less heat-transfer).

Pride
19-02-2016, 07:59 PM
I may be missing something but I thought the main purpose of cooling was discs (being the biggest heat-sink in the braking system) not calipers/pads - cooling is to prevent disc-warp and fluid-overheat, so by cooling the discs (easier than the hidden fluid), you also cool pads (less heat-transfer) and by inference cool fluid (again, less heat-transfer).

Exactly how I was to understand it havoc.
The air is force fed through channelling into the vented disc, this vent could be internally curved and exhausts at the centre of the disc. A black art in its design no doubt.

britlude
21-02-2016, 10:11 AM
if you are going to duct air to the disc from the front of the car, its a flexible tube directing the air to the centre of the disc so the air travels from middle to edge through the vent holes. this is also the way the air would naturally be 'pumped' by the disc turning